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Re:The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying an... by GhotiFish on Monday March 03, 2014 @09:02AM (#7333704)
Well isn't that a cute dilemma. You're either an idiot, which means you won't understand it and shouldn't criticize, or you're not an idiot and your lack of understanding is an effective criticism.

Reminds me of Haskell.

Personally, I'm of the view that the planet is populated by humans, and you have to work with them, and C++'s arcane tome of a standard is perhaps a hostile environment for such creatures.

Re:The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying an... by coldtea on Monday March 03, 2014 @11:50AM (#7334765)
>Personally, I'm of the view that the planet is populated by humans, and you have to work with them, and C++'s arcane tome of a standard is perhaps a hostile environment for such creatures.

I don't know, everybody who's doing serious commercial programming seems to doing OK with C++, for stuff from Photoshop to Premiere, and from MS Office to AAA games and super stable and fast multimedia apps, like Cubase, Studio One, Reason et al.

In fact, OSes aside, more programs of this kind (full featured applications used by billions of people) are written in C++ than in any other language, including C.

Re:The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying an... by tracker1 on Monday March 03, 2014 @02:51PM (#7335993)
> everybody who's doing serious commercial programming ...

Really, so anyone using a higher level language for line of business apps isn't doing serious commercial programming?

Re:The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying an... by coldtea on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @12:26AM (#7338652)
>Really, so anyone using a higher level language for line of business apps isn't doing serious commercial programming?

Well, IMNSHO business apps (I take it you mean "enterprise apps") are not the epitome of programming, much less serious programming. Especially in-house apps.

But it should be obvious from my description that with "commercial programming" I meant the end user market, and things people used to buy in a box or (now) download to run on their Desktop. Not, say, some IBM Java based toolset for the enterprise.

So stuff like MS Office (or LibreOffice), multimedia apps such as Premiere, Photoshop, Avid, Cubase, all modern browsers, AAA games, etc etc.

Re:The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying an... by sixbrx on Tuesday March 04, 2014 @01:49PM (#7342203)
> business apps (I take it you mean "enterprise apps") are not the epitome of programming, much less serious programming.

I'd reverse that and say the polished, packaged apps are the exceptions, these days. Code behind webservers and business backend processing is the code that runs the world now. To see C++ used in such code is pretty unusual. I do think C++ has its place: kernels, drivers, numerics. Not much else.

Re:The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying an... by GhotiFish on Monday March 03, 2014 @04:23PM (#7336576)
yes, I know. Though just because it's standard doesn't make it good.

It does offer good job security, however.

Re:The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying an... by vapourismo on Monday March 03, 2014 @10:44AM (#7334314)
May I have fries with that?
Re:The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying an... by GhotiFish on Monday March 03, 2014 @04:23PM (#7336586)
I'm sure that comment meant something. I have no idea what.