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Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by HeyLaughingBoy on Sunday March 02, 2014 @10:30AM (#7329414)
As reprehensible as the abuse was, this not a First Amendment issue: farms are private property.

It's the same way you can throw someone out of your house for saying things you don't like and they can't claim their First Amendment rights are being violated.

Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by jellicle on Sunday March 02, 2014 @10:43AM (#7329466)
You really shouldn't comment on an issue you know nothing about. The Ag-Gag laws have nothing to do with private property or private rights of action, they are felony criminal laws criminalizing certain kinds of speech, and there's currently at least one Constitutional challenge filed by a plaintiff who was arrested and charged with filming a farm from public property.
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by SixSigma on Sunday March 02, 2014 @10:52AM (#7329494)
My first amendment rights would be violated if I was arrested and jailed for a year for saying something in your house you didn't like.
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by HeyLaughingBoy on Sunday March 02, 2014 @12:30PM (#7329870)
Yes, they would. What's your point?
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by SixSigma on Sunday March 02, 2014 @01:31PM (#7330121)
You claimed it was the same. It isn't because there's a year's jail and a $5k fine involved, thus making it a constitutional matter, not a private one.
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by HeyLaughingBoy on Sunday March 02, 2014 @02:53PM (#7330487)
I think you should work on your reading comprehension.

I said someone throwing you out of their house because of something you said was not a First Amendment issue, and it's not. I don't recall saying, or implying that a homeowner has the ability to jail someone or impose fines. If you are aware of that being the case, I'd certainly be interested in citations.

Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by SixSigma on Sunday March 02, 2014 @03:04PM (#7330529)
Your sloppy writing doesn't help.
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by pyre on Sunday March 02, 2014 @10:38AM (#7329443)
Can you currently convict someone of a felony for lying on their resume?
Re:Idaho law criminalizes secretly filming on farms by Synaesthesia on Sunday March 02, 2014 @01:53PM (#7330217)
I would suggest that the issue is that animals are not property. They can't just do what they want with them and get away with it.