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Re:Ask HN: What is really wrong with the US economy, really? by dangrossman on Thursday February 27, 2014 @06:43PM (#7316163)
> If rent is $2,000/month, a mortgage would be far more than that

Typically, the rent is covering an existing mortgage + taxes + insurance + maintenance + profit. If the mortgage were higher than the rent, the building owner wouldn't be making any money renting it out.

Re:Ask HN: What is really wrong with the US economy, really? by jpollock on Friday February 28, 2014 @10:38AM (#7319290)
No, it doesn't work like that, because it doesn't take the house's capital gain into account.

Given the ability to grow the housing supply, there is typically a fixed return for a property. That return will be split between capital gain and rent. Rent no longer covers the mortgage because it is the total return that determines if it is a good investment. There are also the tax benefits of renting out a house in some locations (maintenance and insurance would be deductible).

When we rented out our house, we were told that the typical return on capital was 8%, where 2-3% would be capital gain, and the rest in rent. We priced our rent at 5% to get a quick rental. Mortgage rates in that location are 6%.

If it is hard to gather a down payment, then rents can exceed mortgages because renters cannot easily swap between the two.

Re:Ask HN: What is really wrong with the US economy, really? by mikeyouse on Thursday February 27, 2014 @08:07PM (#7316589)
Admittedly, lessons from the SF housing market aren't broadly applicable, but due to rent control, the booming home prices, and bizarre property tax rules, it's much cheaper to rent.
Re:Ask HN: What is really wrong with the US economy, really? by lupinglade on Thursday February 27, 2014 @07:12PM (#7316348)
And they aren't always making money. Its about investment.