Re:Dallas data center raided by the FBI based on false claim...
by Dilpil on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @10:05PM
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I think over the next 10 years alot of people will be moving themselves out of the US because of this. I thought the bush years were over?
Re:Dallas data center raided by the FBI based on false claim...
by chaostheory on Thursday July 30, 2009 @09:26AM
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Not really. If you look at the details today, it seems as if Obama has started to embrace policies by Bush and even expand them (while simultaneously still criticizing Bush).
This is one example: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/27/preventive...
Re:Dallas data center raided by the FBI based on false claim...
by wmf on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @07:37PM
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If your servers are hosted overseas, the FBI can probably ask local law enforcement (via some treaty) to seize everything.
Re:Dallas data center raided by the FBI based on false claim...
by jacquesm on Thursday July 30, 2009 @03:24AM
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I highly doubt that the dutch police would seize an entire datacenter on some trumped up charges. Such cowboy actions are very rare here, in fact I don't recall a single instance of such a thing.
An employee of mine once did some very stupid stuff from our corporate network and premises and the police was very reasonable about it.
The quote you give is about some log files from a server in Italy (and fails to detail whether or not they were handed over), we're talking about seizing an entire datacenter here including all the customers machines (plenty of which were government boxes). Hundreds of businesses were ruined on the say so of some junkie.
Disproportional doesn't even begin to describe it.
Re:Dallas data center raided by the FBI based on false claim...
by pyre on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @10:46PM
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Depends on _where_ you are hosted overseas. I'm sure a host in Iran wouldn't be so eager to comply with the FBI.
Re:Dallas data center raided by the FBI based on false claim...
by cema on Thursday July 30, 2009 @12:48AM
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Are you saying your data would be safer in Iran?
Re:Dallas data center raided by the FBI based on false claim...
by missile on Thursday July 30, 2009 @01:59AM
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Seems like a bit of a toss-up, really.
Re:Dallas data center raided by the FBI based on false claim...
by cema on Friday July 31, 2009 @12:42AM
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Hacker News is really not the right place for a serious conversation on this topic, and jokes would only lead to a flame war, so I will rather abstain.
Re:Dallas data center raided by the FBI based on false claim...
by matthias on Thursday July 30, 2009 @05:37AM
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At FOWA Edinburgh, Stefan Magdalinski mentioned that MOO had moved their hosting to the US (from the UK) in order to improve google rankings. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it.
Unbelievable abuse of power and a total lack of understanding of the nature of this business.
To do this much damage without a shred of evidence is absolutely unforgivable.
The fact that the guy basically assumes that he'll go to prison because he refuses to admit guilt to stuff that he didn't do is quite telling. So much for justice.
This reminds me of the Steve Jackson Games raid.