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Re:Daring Fireball: Pay Walls by omouse on Friday July 24, 2009 @11:36PM (#722929)
It would just make things worse. If the Times and/or Post were to erect a pay wall, I see things playing out as follows: they lose most of their readers

Why? People pay $$ for the content that just happens to be in newspaper form. They also pay for content that just happens to be on the TV. Why wouldn't they pay on the Web? OH THAT'S RIGHT! Because everyone expects everything for free! We're all a bunch of freeloaders that don't even want to pay for valuable content.

Re:Daring Fireball: Pay Walls by andrewtj on Saturday July 25, 2009 @12:32AM (#722977)
They would not pay because by and large the content on the sites in question is available elsewhere in one form or another for free.

That doesn't indicate that the readership are "freeloaders" (which implies they're somehow taking advantage of the newspapers generosity) — that's people deciding they'd rather not give away their money.

It's a value proposition - the newspapers who do not make money on the web do not offer something unique to their readership and hence their advertisers.

Re:Daring Fireball: Pay Walls by steveklabnik on Saturday July 25, 2009 @12:25AM (#722972)
I feel like you're being sarcastic, but regardless:

It comes down to scarcity. A physical paper is a good. You're not buying the news, you're buying a paper. People buy cable subscriptions because there aren't any good free alternatives.

But news on the Internet? There are _thousands_ of places to get that. And most of them are free. The Times and the Post don't have enough added value to justify the cost.