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Re:Twitter's sputtering user growth unnerves investors by valas on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @10:00PM (#7188458)
What does it mean "confounded signal/noise ratio"?
Re:Twitter's sputtering user growth unnerves investors by dredmorbius on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:12PM (#7188681)
Look up Clay Shirkey's talk, "It's not information overload, it's filter failure":

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10142298-16.html

Twitter, Facebook, and G+ offer a constant flood of content, but how much of it's really information? "Confounded" probably isn't quite the right word here, I'm mixing the ideas of "greatly worsened S/N" and "confounded" (as in mixed) "signal and noise". The point being that you've got to parse through a bunch of crud to find the meat.

Ezra Klein hit on this in " "The problem with Twitter", leaning on Nick Beaudrot: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/01/t...

Infographic: http://i.imgur.com/OpONYVz.png

I've expanded that to "The Problem with $PLATFORM": http://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/1x1j1o/the_prob...

Re:Twitter's sputtering user growth unnerves investors by JoachimSchipper on Thursday February 06, 2014 @12:43AM (#7188917)
Social networks are a pretty economically insignificant part of IT, though - Twitter/FB/G+ being worthless doesn't imply all that much about "software eating the world". (Yes, they're socially/culturally/... important; economically, they're outclassed by better business software.)
Re:Twitter's sputtering user growth unnerves investors by dredmorbius on Thursday February 06, 2014 @01:45AM (#7189067)
I'm not going to argue your point much, as I largely agree with it.

There is the question of use-value vs. exchange-value, and you could argue that social networks, as with other electronic communications systems (say, Craigslist) serve mostly to facilitate activities which wouldn't otherwise have occurred, and/or leave money in the pockets of those who make use of the services (where you'd previously have had to use newspaper classified ads, or staple flyers to telephone poles, or stand on a soapbox in the town square, or go out and meet your friends in person).

Most of the social networks have had fairly modest revenues. Let's see.... Facebook are claiming $2.5 billion for the three months ending 2013-12-31. That's actually not too bad. Google's $16.8 billion. Most of that's advertising, and if you think of it that way, Google, Facebook, and the other social networks are skimming off of the total advertising market (not insignificant).

A horrible infographic showing Google's ad spend breakdown: http://www.wordstream.com/articles/google-earnings

(When did the world forget how to create bar plots?)

Here we go: http://i.imgur.com/tTVUkwL.png

Roughly 10% of that is finance. The rest various consumer categories. That's the economic impact of social networking, roughly.