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Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by darklajid on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @12:27PM (#7185153)
I just recently (two days ago) started to play with NetBSD to get a feeling for BSDs again.

Looked at FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD - NetBSD seemed to offer the most current packages (and ports) for my needs, OpenBSD had quite an attitude problem.

ZFS on FreeBSD (it seems to be supported on NetBSD, but I haven't found references of it being _used_ in the wild) is a decent reason to give that one a chance again.

Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by tachion on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @12:52PM (#7185386)
Do you mind mentioning which ports/packages are not up to date exactly on FreeBSD?
Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by darklajid on Thursday February 06, 2014 @06:22AM (#7189787)
I checked only a number of things that are .. well .. relevant for what I want to build.

One example that I came up with again now:

prosody is on 0.8.2 in FreeBSD [1] and 0.9.1 in NetBSD [2]

Nothing critical, not to hit on FreeBSD here, but checking a couple of (weird?) packages I'm interested in NetBSD was always equal or ahead.

1: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=prosody&stype=all

2: http://pkgsrc.se/chat/prosody

Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by justincormack on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @12:46PM (#7185319)
ZFS on NetBSD is not really in a usable state alas. Hopefully it willl get fixed soon. If anyone wants to work on it that would be great!
Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by Bluerise on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @02:57PM (#7186373)
What about Bitrig?
Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by darklajid on Thursday February 06, 2014 @06:28AM (#7189809)
Never heard about it before you mentioned it, but I'm not quite sure what they are up to. Forking OpenBSD to .. move it into the direction of NetBSD/FreeBSD?

Also, the website is quite sparse and I couldn't find out if they use the same ports tree as OpenBSD. The latter is (see my comment in the same thread here) out of date for a couple of packages I'm interested in. Just like FreeBSD's.

Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by protomyth on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @11:36AM (#7184707)
So, has anyone tried it? How is it working?
Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by willejs on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @10:22AM (#7184184)
Why? Why wont you die FreeBSD?
Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by TallGuyShort on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @10:41AM (#7184323)
Probably because of silly things like a stable ZFS implementation, jails that are more mature and sophisticated than LXC, a licensing model that is more preferable to many businesses, and one of the best technical documents I've ever seen.
Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by kchoudhu on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @10:26AM (#7184204)
Well, in its defense, it's not doing anyone any harm, and actually is a pretty awesome operating system (ZFS is, to put it mildly, delicious).

The world would be much poorer if FreeBSD left this mortal coil.

Re:BSD CloudInit – FreeBSD on OpenStack by octo_t on Wednesday February 05, 2014 @10:25AM (#7184199)
because diversity in operating systems is healthy? Not everyone subscribes to the 'GPL is best' mindset that permeates parts of the linux ecosystem?