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Re:Why I like Java by zamalek on Monday February 03, 2014 @04:28AM (#7169649)
> I despise the Java language as much as the next dev

It's not so much the language that I despise - I never touched the language because of the end-user experience I got from installing the runtime: the nagging updates and the constant security headlines involving JVM. That's why I will never take the language (or the JVM languages) seriously: I simply would never put my users through what I am somewhat forced to go through (for the select few Java apps I do have to use).

Re:Why I like Java by remon on Monday February 03, 2014 @05:52AM (#7169933)
And the prize for least informed opinion goes to...

Let's review : 1) "I never touched the language" 2) Almost without exception Java vulnerabilities are related the the applet sandbox and not the core JVM

Also, find me a single engineer how understands how the JVM works, what it does, how it does it and how it compares to alternatives that also thinks it's sub par software. I'll wait.

Re:Why I like Java by dkersten on Monday February 03, 2014 @05:15AM (#7169788)
I dislike java the language and java gui applications as much as everyone else, but I've never had any issues with the JVM for server applications.
Re:Why I like Java by EdwardDiego on Monday February 03, 2014 @06:40AM (#7170111)
I'd wager nearly all Java developers run their applications in their own JVMs, far far away from the sweaty mitts of client-side JREs.

> That's why I will never take the language (or the JVM languages) seriously

Seriously dude?

Re:Why I like Java by theandrewbailey on Monday February 03, 2014 @11:18AM (#7171441)
Then you might think I'm the devil incarnate, because I force my blog visitors to use Java, because my blog is actually a Java Servlet app. Go ahead and try it: http://theandrewbailey.com/

There's more to Java than the client runtime.