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Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by npalli on Wednesday January 29, 2014 @06:30PM (#7147924)
Interesting set of moves by Google. Few observations

1. A lot of people are fixated on the sales prices and the $9.5 Billion “loss”. Contrary to gloating from Apple fans, looks like in the final analysis Google paid about $3 Billion for “majority” of the Motorola Patents. Not a terrible deal.

2. Apart from the patents, one reason for the Motorola purchase was to provide some competition to Samsung. Given Samsung’s dominance of the Android platform it was going to be problematic for Google in the future. This deal now creates a solid competitor to Samsung. Lenovo is one of the very few Chinese companies that have created a global brand. There are a lot of fantastic Chinese companies that are big but are unknown outside of China. So, with the Lenovo angle, Google gets a strong competitor to Samsung and also a partner to compete within the Chinese market (companies like Xiaomi which are non-Google Android).

3. The mobile market is like the PC market circa 2004, that is it is maturing and has a few years before brutal competition is going to drive down all profits. The future is connected devices, robotics and other ‘intelligent’ machines. With the Nest and Boston Dynamics purchase, Google has the team and the chance to build the next great hardware/software stack ground up and be well positioned for the big markets in the next decade.

All in all, good set of moves for Google. Alas, Apple in contrast reminds me of Microsoft in the early ‘00s. Hugely profitable but fixated on the current ‘ecosystem’ and extending and controlling it. Microsoft’s fixation on the windows ecosystem proved to a huge distraction and ultimately made them miss the internet/advertising and the mobile markets both which proved to be gigantic compared to the windows franchise.

Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by 10feet on Wednesday January 29, 2014 @06:49PM (#7148037)
> Contrary to gloating from Apple fans

This isn't necessary, and cheapens a good point.

> This deal now creates a solid competitor to Samsung.

Samsung has solid competitors with strong global brands. You have Sony, which has been around for a long time. You also have LG, HTC, and a lot of other lesser known brands. You have Amazon, BN in the Tablet space.

Not sure what the cheap shots at Apple and Apple fans have to do with this discussion.

Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by michaelcampbell on Thursday January 30, 2014 @08:32AM (#7150544)
Then maybe you could have just ignored it; you effectively Streisand Effected it for me with 2 of your 3 paragraphs devoted to that.
Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by vidarh on Thursday January 30, 2014 @08:36AM (#7150558)
Some quick searches indicates that Huawei and LG have ~4-5% of the market each, and Sony and HTC around 7% or so each.

Meanwhile Samsung is above 30%

Motorola + Lenovo has a shot at 11%-12%.

So no, Samsung doesn't really have any really solid competitors. Especially given that most of the above are not making much - if any - money on their Android phones at the moment.

Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by nb1981 on Thursday January 30, 2014 @04:41AM (#7149780)
Everything has to be partisan now. Shame.
Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by blinkingled on Wednesday January 29, 2014 @07:43PM (#7148284)
>With the Nest and Boston Dynamics purchase, Google has the team and the chance to build the next great hardware/software stack ground up and be well positioned for the big markets in the next decade

They are keeping the Motorola Advanced Technology Group as well - the one responsible for project Ara (modular cell phones) and password tattoos.

Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by poslathian on Wednesday January 29, 2014 @08:14PM (#7148430)
Do you have a source for this?
Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by blinkingled on Wednesday January 29, 2014 @08:21PM (#7148454)
Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by poslathian on Wednesday January 29, 2014 @08:36PM (#7148521)
great, thanks!
Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by newleaf on Wednesday January 29, 2014 @06:46PM (#7148020)
There could be an additional benefit to Google of having an Android maker that is also strong in the enterprise world (complementing Samsung's consumer strength).
Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by toyg on Thursday January 30, 2014 @06:05AM (#7150017)
>Microsoft’s fixation [...] ultimately made them miss the internet/advertising and the mobile markets

Actually, MS was quite a pioneer in the mobile space. Their mistakes were in execution (they went after pricy enterprise tools like PDAs rather than consumer-grade phones) and timing (technology simply wasn't ready -- they made a big push on early tablets before capacitive touchscreens changed the whole landscape). Gates could see where things were going, he wasn't "distracted"; he bailed on MS when when it was just about clear that the company wasn't running towards new markets as fast as it should have.

Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by camus2 on Thursday January 30, 2014 @06:27AM (#7150074)
> technology simply wasn't ready

no, Windows Mobile was a horrible os, that's all.They tried to port a desktop ui to mobile,it sucked , then they tried to port a mobile ui to desktop(metro), it still sucked. The problem is Microsoft itself,nothing else.

Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by vidarh on Thursday January 30, 2014 @08:44AM (#7150591)
Windows Mobile may have been a horrible OS, but at the time the main competition was not iOS type devices, but Palm Pilot, Psion/Symbian and the like, and the devices of the time - regardless of OS - were horribly hampered by hardware (I spent '99 working on a tablet running Linux - we got something halfway decent for the time, but imagine a tablet with resistive touch-screen, 486 level cpu and 32MB RAM, at the cost of an iPad).

I agree that if they'd tried to enter that market from scratch after the iPhone, with Windows Mobile, they'd still have problems. But at that time, Windows Mobile did not look all that bad for the market "everyone" were targeting, and the competing OS's were abysmal abominations to work with (I spent '98 in part working on an app for Palm Pilot; I'm still trying to forget the memory management horrors)

Re:Lenovo to acquire Motorola Mobility by toyg on Friday January 31, 2014 @01:34AM (#7155621)
>Windows Mobile was a horrible os

The fact that you're referring to it by its late name, rather than the early ones (WinCE / PocketPC) I think is indicative of your perspective. Early WinCE competed with Palm and (what would have become) Symbian; because of incredibly low-res screens, people were supposed to use stylus pens. There was little research on usability of mobile devices to build on. Devices were terribly underpowered, memory was much more expensive.

Believe me, for the times, a (colorscreen!) PocketPC device was not as terrible as you think, considering overall constraints. This was almost a decade before iOS.