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Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by dylz on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @08:29PM (#7141182)
Why is slate doing this? Shouldn't we be teaching every point of view the students are going to encounter objectively instead of censoring "unwanted things"?
Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by angersock on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @08:32PM (#7141196)
No, because anybody who believes in creationism is a completely backward person and incapable of rational, critical thought. Even on the off-chance they somehow come up with something that makes sense on another topic, anything they say is suspect.

So, no, we shouldn't be teaching every point of view, because that'd be stupid.

Similarly, I've flagged this article, because it's just another "ho ho ho look how superior we are to those backwards Southerners yes...."

Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by chad_oliver on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @10:11PM (#7141588)
> anybody who believes in creationism is a completely backward person and incapable of rational, critical thought.

Was that meant to be sarcastic? Because that's rather bigoted. I think that creationism is irrational, but it's a very large jump to say that a person is therefore incapable of critical thought.

Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by angersock on Wednesday January 29, 2014 @11:18AM (#7144750)
My entire post was sarcasm, though reading back through it it is rather dry and non-obvious.
Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by chad_oliver on Wednesday January 29, 2014 @03:09PM (#7146427)
Ah, my bad.
Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by MartinCron on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @08:40PM (#7141236)
Choosing only to teach actual science in science class doesn't exactly equate to censorship. There are all sorts of non-scientific beliefs that aren't covered in science class. Phrenology isn't part of biology. Continental drift isn't part of geology, but nobody calls those omissions censorship.
Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by eksith on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @08:41PM (#7141240)
In science class, we teach science. Creationism is religion and belongs in religious studies.

If the students themselves or the parents "want" creationism to be taught, they may elect to take a religious studies program.

Also of note, anyone's inability or unwillingness to accept reality doesn't make reality any less real.

Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by talkerlang on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @08:47PM (#7141272)
"Shouldn't we be teaching 'EVERY' point of view the students are going to encounter...." Why stop at Creationism then? By that logic, there should be classes for Hinduism, Scientology, Flying Spaghetti Monsters, Deepak Chopra, Mormonism... and the list goes on.
Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by waps on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @11:48PM (#7141956)
So wait ... we will be preventing students from hearing about religious dogma by ... imposing our own dogma ? Wtf ?

The Soviet union, incidentally, did exactly that. Here's one of the initially funny consequences of forcing scientific views on everyone, currently referred to as Lysenkoism [1]. It's only funny until you realize just how many people this affected and what was done to enforce this.

Short list of people executed as direct result of attempts to enforce scientific socialist/soviet dogma:

Isaak Agol

Solomon Levit

Grigorii Levitskii

Georgii Karpechenko

Georgii Nadson

Is scientific dogma really any better than religious dogma ? I would argue that the vast majority of Christian schools teach both creationism and evolution. What is wrong with that ?

Incidentally, like the things it's describing, there's quite a bit of evolution in evolution itself. So much, that what most people were taught as evolution is no longer considered true.

I also love the naivite in this position. As if this pushing of evolution is being done to advance scientific knowledge. It is being done for the same reason that the French revolutionaries did it (another example of people who pushed scientific dogma, another example of that practice ending in mountains of corpses). They did it for a simple reason : to make people follow the state like they follow the church.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 29, 2014 @12:31AM (#7142121)
Science class isn't about teaching "points of view", its about teaching science.

There are other contexts in which teaching non-scientific "points of view" that people might encounter could defensibly be taught.

Re:Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creatio... by skylan_q on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @08:31PM (#7141191)
Why is slate doing this?

Views. That's about it.