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Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by gnaritas on Friday January 24, 2014 @05:05PM (#7118446)
I'd think the appropriate response to being groped is to shove the guy out of your personal space and say get your hands off me jerk. His response is irrelevant, groping is not just being friendly.

However, admittedly, as a guy maybe I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by snowwrestler on Friday January 24, 2014 @06:20PM (#7118899)
The problem is that she wants to be there, wants to meet all these people, wants to be accepted as a fellow bitcoin enthusiast, wants to make a good impression, wants to maybe make some friends, or maybe just some connections.

It's hard to do any of that when 5 minutes in, you're shoving somebody and chastising them publicly.

The groper is not going to react well to that. They're not going to think they did anything wrong (if they did, they wouldn't have done it in the first place). So they'll see her as the aggressor and complain loudly.

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by gnaritas on Friday January 24, 2014 @06:33PM (#7118961)
No one should care how the groper responds, after they hear "stop groping me jerk" he's going to be the one shunned, not her. Assholes never think they're wrong; you shouldn't care what they think. It's not at all hard to do any of that if it's clear to people around you who the asshole was.

I keep seeing people talk about how the groper is going to react... seriously, who gives a shit how the villain acts, he's the fucking villain in the situation. You may as well point out that a rapist isn't going to react well to being made to stop raping someone; I'm stunned you'd even think this a valid point to make.

When people act inappropriately, it's doesn't matter what they think or how they react; they're in the wrong, their feeling are irrelevant. Concern yourself with how the victim feels and stop sympathizing with the groper.

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by snowwrestler on Friday January 24, 2014 @09:59PM (#7119654)
I am explaining how the victim feels. The issue is not the groper, the issue is everyone else, who may or may not react the way you think they should.

Look back at the story of the woman who stood up for her feelings at the tech conference by calling out behavior she thought was inappropriate. Some people agreed with her, but others derided and attacked her.

Whether one side or the other was more morally correct in your eyes is not the point. The point is that it sucks to be the object of social tension.

And it's not really fair for you to define how tolerant other people should be of that pressure.

Re:This is What it's Like to Be a Woman at a Bitcoin Meetup by gnaritas on Friday January 24, 2014 @10:34PM (#7119735)
OK, that's much clearer, I wasn't getting your point before. Noted.