How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engineer wages

Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by kirubakaran on Thursday January 23, 2014 @07:27PM (#7112561)

He has always been there.

"Jobs told him that Atari gave them only $700 (instead of the offered $5,000), and that Wozniak's share was thus $350. Wozniak did not learn about the actual bonus until ten years later, but said that if Jobs had told him about it and had said he needed the money, Wozniak would have given it to him."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by 31reasons on Thursday January 23, 2014 @09:11PM (#7112962)

Woz is someone who is straight out of fairytales. I wish I had a friend like him.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by wozniacki on Friday January 24, 2014 @05:47AM (#7114277)

Wozniak on Jobs :

         *...told Jobs the good things these machines could  
         do for humanity, not the reverse. I begged Steve
         that we donate the first Apple I to a woman who 
         took computers into elementary schools but he made
         my buy it and donate it myself.*

http://i.imgur.com/a1I9DTs.jpg

https://plus.google.com/+CarmsPerez/posts/GnVTvQNgvpf

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by chris_wot on Friday January 24, 2014 @06:01AM (#7114324)

I seriously consider Steve Jobs to be a sociopath.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by JetSpiegel on Friday January 24, 2014 @06:48AM (#7114465)

How can he be so successful otherwise?

By a certain measure of successful.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by chris_wot on Sunday January 26, 2014 @10:07PM (#7128511)

He wasn't successful at being a human being. That counts for a lot in my book.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by johnmaddox on Friday January 24, 2014 @06:15AM (#7114371)

After all this why does Steve Wozniak stay with him.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by wavefunction on Friday January 24, 2014 @08:43AM (#7114827)

Because he's the Woz, he's immutable and immovable like the Bhudda

Funny how Jobs was the 'Bhuddist.'

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by eric_h on Friday January 24, 2014 @12:33PM (#7116125)

buddha, buddhist

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by ape4 on Friday January 24, 2014 @03:43PM (#7117863)

Jobs was a buddhist, but Woz is the buddha.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by 1stop on Saturday January 25, 2014 @08:05AM (#7120669)

a buddha... the buddha died a long time ago.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by chris_wot on Sunday January 26, 2014 @06:41PM (#7127657)

Didn't he ascend to a higher plane?

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by wavefunction on Saturday January 25, 2014 @05:23AM (#7120430)

and yet you still knew that to which I referred ;)

(afaik there isn't a standard transliteration but I could be wrong as I often am...)

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by BasDirks on Saturday January 25, 2014 @07:33AM (#7120614)

b|_|Ddh4 then?

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by lifeisstillgood on Friday January 24, 2014 @08:09AM (#7114709)

Because any maker wants their stuff to be in front of as many people as possible - and staying with Jobs sure made that happen.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by rmc on Saturday January 25, 2014 @11:24AM (#7121165)

Because he's fundamentally a nice guy?

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by johnmaddox on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @07:01AM (#7136572)

citation needed.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by Natsu on Friday January 24, 2014 @12:50AM (#7113540)

No matter what I hear about him, it seems like I always end up respecting Steve Wozniak more.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by dba7dba on Friday January 24, 2014 @01:33AM (#7113652)

Unfortunately most people only know/worship Jobs. Few non-geeks know about Wozniak. Sad.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by danellis on Friday January 24, 2014 @08:43AM (#7114826)

Time for a Kickstarter for iWoz: The Movie.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by Already__Taken on Friday January 24, 2014 @04:48AM (#7114128)

It sounds like he likes it that way.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by SkyMarshal on Friday January 24, 2014 @03:08PM (#7117588)

Not when it results in lies and historical revisionism that besmirch his true legacy:

https://plus.google.com/+CarmsPerez/posts/GnVTvQNgvpf

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by RuCrazy on Friday January 24, 2014 @01:54AM (#7113707)

i know the mofo Woz!

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by blueskin_ on Friday January 24, 2014 @03:51AM (#7113969)

...and this is why, even as a major Apple hater * , I like and respect Wozniak.

* Although, to be fair to myself, Apple only turned into its current form after he left.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by johnmaddox on Friday January 24, 2014 @04:34AM (#7114094)

I really respect Steve Wozniak. But why does he not rebel and leave him. Why does any body surrender when they have a choice unlike most others. And this is the reason i wish there are more people like RMS who are both talented and have deep philosophy.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by dchichkov on Saturday January 25, 2014 @12:42AM (#7119991)

Would you care to guess why?

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by johnmaddox on Tuesday January 28, 2014 @06:51AM (#7136542)

I am not able to. Money? It can not be atleast in case of Woz.

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Re:How Silicon Valley CEOs conspired to drive down tech engi... by kayoone on Friday January 24, 2014 @04:54AM (#7114142)

A lot of Woz' generosity comes from him not caring about money and power but that doesn't make him any less likable of course.

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