Re:Graph of Programming Language Influences
by torrance on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @11:08PM
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It's really interesting that Haskell, which is often portrayed as merely an academic play-thing, is so prominent. By bringing together so many language features that were otherwise relatively obscure it's acted as a kind of language laboratory — and in doing so it's made a really clear case for a lot of them.
Re:Graph of Programming Language Influences
by tikhonj on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @11:18PM
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It's a language designer's language--just like jazz is often musician's music :).
Haskell serves as both a vessel and a showcase for PL research. It also has very close ties to a bunch of communities, including many of the people behind Microsoft's languages (VB.NET, C# and F#).
Also, while Haskell does not have a broad presence in industry, it does have a reasonable amount of mindshare. A surprising number of people know and talk about Haskell, even if they've never used it. This also helps influence the design of other languages.
Re:Graph of Programming Language Influences
by tethis on Thursday January 23, 2014 @07:45PM
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I know I like to talk about Haskell, even if it's too dense for me to grasp at a level where I could put it into production without jumping off a bridge.
Re:Graph of Programming Language Influences
by mattdw on Wednesday January 22, 2014 @05:14AM
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Not to mention that it's just repeating whatever myths Wikipedia has picked up, like the connection of Javascript to Scheme. A more rigorously curated graph would be very interesting.
Re:Graph of Programming Language Influences
by cormullion on Wednesday January 22, 2014 @04:18AM
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I thought that AppleScript looked oddly placed, sheltering directly under Lisp. But some people do consider it to be influenced by Lisp/Scheme - Matt Neuburg proposes the connection somewhere in his 'AppleScript - the definitive guide'. I would have connected it more with HyperTalk, which is down past ECMAscript. And English.
Re:Graph of Programming Language Influences
by lispm on Wednesday January 22, 2014 @10:21AM
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> AppleScript was officially conceived in 1989 as a research project by the Advanced Technology Group (ATG) at Apple Computer and was code-named “Family Farm.” The research team was led by Larry Tesler and included Mike Farr, Mitchell Gass, Mike Gough, Jed Harris, Al Hoffman, Ruben Kleiman, Edmund Lai, and Frank Ludolph.
Some of those knew Lisp. The Advanced Technology Group led by Tesler used Macintosh Common Lisp in many application prototypes and research projects. There was an 'AppleScript on Steroids' written in MCL called Sk8Script by them.
Re:Graph of Programming Language Influences
by chao- on Wednesday January 22, 2014 @02:06AM
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That was my first thought as well. I wish I could click on a single language and have it highlight only its direct connections or darken everything else.
Haskell serves as both a vessel and a showcase for PL research. It also has very close ties to a bunch of communities, including many of the people behind Microsoft's languages (VB.NET, C# and F#).
Also, while Haskell does not have a broad presence in industry, it does have a reasonable amount of mindshare. A surprising number of people know and talk about Haskell, even if they've never used it. This also helps influence the design of other languages.
Basic and QBasic/QuickBasic are on two different parts of the graph, as well as Javascript and Ecmascript.
The should be interactive and force-based so that it aligns in a nicer way.
It's handmade, so it's better but not perfect:
https://app.box.com/s/lo36pbyqi3v2fg1wqefx [Language Family Tree.svg]
https://app.box.com/s/qxq4ohxfv44j3euas5gl [Language Family Tree.graffle]
Some of those knew Lisp. The Advanced Technology Group led by Tesler used Macintosh Common Lisp in many application prototypes and research projects. There was an 'AppleScript on Steroids' written in MCL called Sk8Script by them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_Sharp
It is based on Freebase data, which differs from DBpedia, although it is one of Freebase's sources.
And it influenced Scala, Go and many more.