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Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by dragonwriter on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @01:37PM (#7097228)
> But fiat currencies are simply currencies that aren't backed by collateral.

That's the looser definition, the narrower one (from which the name comes) is that that it is currency not backed by collateral but backed by a government's designation of it (by fiat) as legal tender.

Given the absence of significant non-representative non-government-issued currencies prior to modern cryptocurrencies, the looser definition was essentially equivalent to the narrower and naming definition, so there was really no real reason to concern oneself with the difference. Now, though, especially in the context of discussions of cryptocurrencies, its probably better to stick with the narrow definition of fiat to avoid confusion and adopt a different term when something like the broader definition is necessary.

Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by jellicle on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @01:54PM (#7097376)
So what's the term for something shadier than fiat currency, something not backed by collateral NOR by government dictate? It should convey all the scorn directed at "fiat currency", but moreso.
Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by wmf on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @03:17PM (#7098010)
Cryptocurrency.
Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by dllthomas on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @05:16PM (#7098941)
Also, "scrip"
Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by gojomo on Wednesday January 22, 2014 @07:33AM (#7102188)
I expect government-issued cryptocurrencies soon, so a more specific, wispy-sounding term may be needed for jellicle's purpose.

Coop currency? Improv currency?

Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by guscost on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @05:34PM (#7099084)
What do you say to the idea that Bitcoin is backed by established laws of math and economics?
Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by wmf on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @06:20PM (#7099376)
If a currency is "backed" by something, it means the issuer is willing to exchange it for another resource, usually at a fixed ratio. For example, a gold-backed dollar (when they used to exist) could be exchanged for a certain weight of gold. There is no such thing for Bitcoin.
Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by guscost on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @08:58PM (#7100190)
Bitcoins can be exchanged for the ability to add a new transaction to the blockchain, at the very least. It might be abstract and of questionable value but there is certainly such a thing.

And this is getting a bit whimsical, but why is the gold valuable?

Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by betterunix on Wednesday January 22, 2014 @09:19AM (#7102608)
Gold is valuable because once upon a time the government accepted gold as a tax payment. The use of gold as money lasted for so long that people began to think that there was some kind of magic behind gold. Most of today's gold prices are based on belief in that magic.
Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by dragonwriter on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @07:10PM (#7099638)
About that idea, I say that its false, and relies on misunderstanding of at least what "backed by" means for a currency, and probably a strained view of what are "established laws" of economics, as well.
Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by guscost on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @09:09PM (#7100244)
Can a government "back" currency by deeming it to be valuable, without offering to exchange it for a store of value?

If not, saying that Bitcoin is "not even backed" by fiat is meaningless. If so, we are using "backed" in the wrong sense.

Re:Why Bitcoin Matters by tptacek on Tuesday January 21, 2014 @06:08PM (#7099286)
"That speculative credit default swaps were also backed by established laws of math and economics"?