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Re:WikiLeaks releases Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Enviro... by swombat on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @04:02AM (#7062334)
I don't really have the time to read through this. What are the key points?

I know the TPP is an agreement negotiated in secret by (probably non-elected) representatives who have corporate best interests at heart, which probably means it's hideously bad, but I don't have the time to read through it all myself.

Re:WikiLeaks releases Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Enviro... by a_bonobo on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @04:17AM (#7062375)
This doesn't seem to be the full TPP, "just" the chapter on environment. There's a press-release which summarizes some points: http://wikileaks.org/tpp-enviro/pressrelease.html

>When compared against other TPP chapters, the Environment Chapter is noteworthy for its absence of mandated clauses or meaningful enforcement measures. The dispute settlement mechanisms it creates are cooperative instead of binding; there are no required penalties and no proposed criminal sanctions. With the exception of fisheries, trade in 'environmental' goods and the disputed inclusion of other multilateral agreements, the Chapter appears to function as a public relations exercise.

>Julian Assange, WikiLeaks' publisher, stated: "Today's WikiLeaks release shows that the public sweetner in the TPP is just media sugar water. The fabled TPP environmental chapter turns out to be a toothless public relations exercise with no enforcement mechanism."

and

>The documents date from 24 November 2013 ─ the end of the Salt Lake City round. They were requested by the Ministers of the TPP after the August 2013 Brunei round. The Consolidated Text was designed to be a "landing zone" document to further the negotiations quickly and displays what the Chairs say is a good representation of all Parties' positions at the time.

Re:WikiLeaks releases Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Enviro... by prolifically on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @07:56AM (#7063052)
I wonder if that treaty has any effect on anything. Signing parties exclude Japan, New-Zealand, Russia, Chile, Ecuador and all central america. Seems like this is one of those treaty done just to say: 'Look we tried, but it's complicated, [yada yada yada]'.
Re:WikiLeaks releases Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Enviro... by prawks on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @08:58AM (#7063328)
> public relations exercise

Without reading through it, it would seem it may have a great deal of effect on public relations in the participating countries. I'd imagine it may be used as PR leverage against countries who did not participate as well. "Just look at how little Russia and NZ care about the environment!"

Re:WikiLeaks releases Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Enviro... by jarek on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @04:17AM (#7062376)
Ladies and gentlemen: Western democracies in a nutshell
Re:WikiLeaks releases Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Enviro... by alan_cx on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @04:18AM (#7062379)
I know what you mean. Worse still, you need to be a lawyer to understand it. I started on it and ground to a halt, and I do have some limited experience of dealing with legal paperwork.

And of course, while I appreciate the need for precise legally robust language in these things, it use does create a barriers to general understanding.

I dont know how it could be funded, but I'd love to see a service where these sorts of documents are boiled down to something the average person can understand with out a law degree.

Re:WikiLeaks releases Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Enviro... by BobMarin on Wednesday January 15, 2014 @01:34PM (#7065147)
you just found yourself a startup!