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Re:Joyent co-founder on why AWS will win, OpenStack will fla... by mmckeen on Saturday January 11, 2014 @09:19PM (#7044845)
Everyone I know who has used AWS in real life kinda hates it. From joking about downtime troubleshooting, to dealing with managing security and access, AWS is infrastructure built by developers, rather than sysadmins. I would much rather run my own OpenStack servers than use AWS anyday. At least then when I have downtime, I have the ability to do something about it.
Re:Joyent co-founder on why AWS will win, OpenStack will fla... by viraptor on Saturday January 11, 2014 @10:49PM (#7045084)
Regarding security and access, OS is still not that good unfortunately. V3 api should have a better access control, but it's still far behind Amazon's ACLs unfortunately.

Do you really want to deal with all the hardware yourself though? Juggling failing disks, dealing with system upgrades, managing edge of the network, debugging strange one-off issues that sometimes require firmware updates, backup power systems, etc. ? Any cloud provider is better/cheaper unless you need multiple racks and hire people to manage them.

Re:Joyent co-founder on why AWS will win, OpenStack will fla... by mmckeen on Saturday January 11, 2014 @09:21PM (#7044852)
Combine this with the very interesting LinuxConfAu keynote from Matthew Garret talking about the kind of security that IaaS providers should provide, but don't, I am really scared to totally rely on IaaS for things that matter. I mean look at the recent DigitalOcean data privacy problems.
Re:Joyent co-founder on why AWS will win, OpenStack will fla... by Thaxll on Saturday January 11, 2014 @11:29PM (#7045156)
Plus the price + overall bad performances of AWS.