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Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by epipsychidion on Friday January 10, 2014 @11:49AM (#7037576)
What kind of job pays a 25 year old 160k with flexible hours? Genuinely curious.
Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by potatolicious on Friday January 10, 2014 @11:58AM (#7037653)
Many intermediate-senior level dev jobs at AAA-level shops (see: Google, Facebook, etc), as well as many startups. I know people in this range (and above) in both the Bay Area and NYC.
Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by epipsychidion on Friday January 10, 2014 @12:05PM (#7037719)
Yes but at 25? That's 4 years of experience out of college. I'm in my second year working in technology for a large i-bank and I'm barely breaching 100k :(
Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by n00b101 on Friday January 10, 2014 @12:47PM (#7038073)
I know this doesn't need saying ... But I can guarantee you that there are ~25 year old bankers at the investment bank who are making more a lot more than $100k. Technology roles are discounted at investment banks, since they perceive technology as a cost centre, not a profit centre. But at Google/Apple/etc, it's the opposite - technology is a profit centre, and finance roles are a cost centre.
Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by epipsychidion on Friday January 10, 2014 @12:57PM (#7038146)
Yeah I understand that, I'm just surprised that it's feasible to make that much in technology. I had an offer from Microsoft when I graduated that was about the same so I'd have to gain around 14.5% every year to get to 165k. Seems a bit high or perhaps I was just being lowballed.
Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by potatolicious on Friday January 10, 2014 @01:40PM (#7038451)
Big companies suck at giving raises. I've achieved a pretty decent average-raise-per-year by hopping every year or two (works out to about 13% per year for me), I've only been in the industry for ~4 years.

Experience is worth a tremendous amount in this industry, but you'd never realize this if you're too loyal to a single employer. Shop around, hop when it benefits you.

Most starting new-grad packages are around $100K these days in the Bay Area, and said companies would be content giving you 1% to 3% raises a year from there. To maximize your value you must change jobs.

Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by nicholas73 on Friday January 10, 2014 @08:02PM (#7040882)
Is this really true outside of FB, Google, etc?

Outside of mobile/web dev?

Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by frankphilips on Friday January 10, 2014 @12:09PM (#7037762)
He worked his ass off in an I.T firm, became good friends with the CEO...and helped grow that company. He made Director in 2 years. I think what bothers him is that he busted his ass to make that company big, and made his boss SUPER wealthy. So although he's making good money, if it was his own firm, he would've been a millionaire by now.
Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by smacktoward on Friday January 10, 2014 @12:30PM (#7037924)
Two thoughts on this:

1) True, if it had been his own firm, he would have been a millionaire. But would he have known enough about his business at age 23 to create that same firm? I'm betting he has learned a huge amount in the last two years -- that he's much wiser and more savvy now than he was before he started this process. That wisdom will make him much better positioned to someday build his own empire than he would have been had he jumped the gun and started building without it. That's an advantage that very few 25-year-olds have.

2) OK, so his boss is a millionaire and he isn't. But what he will find as he earns more money is that there is no amount of money that is "enough." Say he goes out on his own and makes as much as his current boss does. Now he's a millionaire, but now he finds himself envious of multi-millionaires. And what he doesn't realize is that those multi-millionaires are envious of people who have hundreds of millions, and the people with hundreds of millions are envious of the people with billions... and on and on. It never ends. There is never enough.

Or as one of my favorite reads, Stephen Mitchell's translation of the Tao Te Ching (http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/texts/taote-v3.h...), puts it:

   Fill your bowl to the brim
   and it will spill.
   Keep sharpening your knife
   and it will blunt.
   Chase after money and security
   and your heart will never unclench.
   Care about people's approval
   and you will be their prisoner.
   
   Do your work, then step back.
   The only path to serenity.
Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by ido on Friday January 10, 2014 @12:00PM (#7037672)
Programmer, for example.
Re:25Y Male making over $250K+ annually. Still stuck. Help? by tzm on Friday January 10, 2014 @12:08PM (#7037747)
...specifically mobile dev.