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Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by ChuckMcM on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @04:19PM (#7026740)
This is pretty neat, the whole concept of 'open legal' is fascinating to me. For years it seems Lawyer's were like machinists of old, carrying around their own special sauce of document [1]. Now quality, vetted, legal documents are pretty straight forward to come by. This is pretty cool in my opinion.

[1] This was the root of a long running joke in Intolerable Cruelty referring to the 'Massey Prenup' -- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138524/

Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by rhc2104 on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @04:11PM (#7026670)
I have a question about the SAFE.

SAFE holders don't seem to have the right to veto dividends. Shouldn't they have that right? What stops a company from issuing SAFEs, making a big dividend, and letting the company's shell fold?

Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by steeve on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @04:03PM (#7026605)
Chiming in to say that SAFE has been "ported" to France thanks to the awesome folks at TheFamily, it's called AIR: http://www.meetair.co/
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by codezero on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @03:18PM (#7026265)
Is there anywhere that discusses/describes SAFE and its benefits/trade-offs in detail?
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by jacobheller on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @03:28PM (#7026341)
My startup, Casetext (YC S13), has the full text of the SAFE annotated by lawyers, investors, and founders: https://casetext.com/contract/simple-agreement-for-future-eq...
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by codezero on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @05:10PM (#7027129)
This is great, thanks!
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by minimax on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @03:24PM (#7026311)
This looks like a pretty good place to start:

http://ycombinator.com/safe/

Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by codezero on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @05:10PM (#7027131)
Great, thanks!
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by gus_massa on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @07:00PM (#7027792)
Discussion of the original announcement: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6862461 (487 points, 33 days ago, 117 comments). In particular read the first comment, from user grellas. (He is a lawyer.)
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by minimax on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @03:34PM (#7026383)
Is "SAFE note" a valid way of referring to a SAFE security? If it's not a debt instrument, it seems weird to call it a "note." It almost sounds more like an equity option (i.e. investors are buying the right to buy a certain amount of equity at a set price in the future).
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by aagha on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @03:45PM (#7026476)
PG himself refers to them as "Safe Financing Documents": http://ycombinator.com/safe/
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by pg on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @04:49PM (#7026968)
No, it's just called a "safe."
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by timdorr on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @03:25PM (#7026318)
I know of at least one Atlanta-based accelerator that is using them too. They seem to be fairly sound and better than other financial docs.
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by durkie on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @05:06PM (#7027102)
is that flashpoint?
Re:Y Combinator’s safes spread – L.A. accelerator is now iss... by memossy on Wednesday January 08, 2014 @05:37PM (#7027328)
What discounts are SAFEs going to be issued at? Assuming no caps yet?