Re:Do Women Only Initiatives Really Help Women?
by pessimizer on Saturday January 04, 2014 @12:26PM
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>1. I can just as easily claim that most of those companies are owned by old people.
Yes, you can. I would argue that being older means that you have had the time to accumulate skills, experience, and connections. What does being a man give you? Upper body strength?
>2. Same reasoning as above.
I missed that reasoning. Most companies are owned by old people (something that I'm not even sure is true), therefore there's no sexism?
Re:Do Women Only Initiatives Really Help Women?
by ppprop on Saturday January 04, 2014 @12:35PM
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The point I was trying to make is that in the times many of those companies were created, sexism WAS a legitimate issue, which means that most of these companies are run by men. Nowadays, it is not nearly as big an issue as it is made out to be, but that does not magically infuse the old companies with 50% women. This is why using this statistic is inherently flawed, as the companies were simply created in a different time (if you don't believe me, check http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/. Very few of those companies are what you would call nouveau riche).
Re:Do Women Only Initiatives Really Help Women?
by pessimizer on Saturday January 04, 2014 @12:50PM
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I would argue that the age of the company isn't what's important, but the age of the CEO. If a 150 year-old company has a 45 year old CEO, what does the age of the company have to do with it - unless you are arguing for long lasting traditions of discrimination that are invariant for a company.
Re:Do Women Only Initiatives Really Help Women?
by ps4fanboy on Saturday January 04, 2014 @12:54PM
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Large companies tend to have a fair amount of nepotism in the top ranking positions. You would have to control for this as well.
Re:Do Women Only Initiatives Really Help Women?
by pessimizer on Saturday January 04, 2014 @01:44PM
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Women would benefit from nepotism.
Re:Do Women Only Initiatives Really Help Women?
by ps4fanboy on Saturday January 04, 2014 @08:35PM
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would? You mean they do? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Rinehart
2. Same reasoning as above. This used to be true, and is not anymore. Yes, not giving women the right to vote was bad. But now, they have the right to vote. The problem was solved.
3. Not sure what the merit of it is.