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Re:There's always other places to turn to. by veritas on Thursday October 18, 2007 @10:38PM (#70117)
How insane would it be if you got a YC rejection letter, but a Sequoia interview... :D
Re:There's always other places to turn to. by GammaStats on Thursday October 18, 2007 @11:23PM (#70130)
It seems to me that YC is more interested in making quick in/out investments and not in real long term projects. Long term projects belong in the hands of those that are willing to go in for the long haul.

I am not too disappointed that our application was rejected on those grounds. Really, who wants to give up so much for a few dollars and a chance to give a presentation?

Re:There's always other places to turn to. by mattmaroon on Thursday October 18, 2007 @11:44PM (#70142)
That's not exactly true. They remain involved with you indefinitely. They have a vested interest in your success, it would be silly of them not to.

Their strategy (lot of small investments) does take depend on economies of scale, so it's not as hands on as Sequoias, which depends a few big investments. They obviously won't spend as much time with you as a VC would because of that, but the time they do spend is proportionately more valuable.

You give up a small % of the company, and it's a lot more than a presentation. There are also advice, contacts, and credibility.

Re:There's always other places to turn to. by danielha on Friday October 19, 2007 @12:22PM (#70379)
> Really, who wants to give up so much for a few dollars and a chance to give a presentation?

You do. ;)

Re:There's always other places to turn to. by danielzarick on Thursday April 02, 2009 @12:19PM (#543553)
Could not have been said more succinctly, Daniel.
Re:There's always other places to turn to. by veritas on Thursday October 18, 2007 @11:30PM (#70135)
Fair point. YC exists not to be on your board or help run the business, but to help you get to the people that will do those things. Which, I consider, to be a valuable service.

Have you had any contact with Sequoia? If so, what are they like?

Re:There's always other places to turn to. by GammaStats on Friday October 19, 2007 @01:49PM (#70416)
We have not made contact yet. However all of our research suggests that they are an easy bunch to work with.

It is in their best interest not to turn people away on the basis of no-intro. The founders of many of their start-ups contacted them out of the blue with their plan and expressed desire to work with them.

Re:There's always other places to turn to. by nanijoe on Friday October 19, 2007 @10:57AM (#70346)
"I am not too disappointed that our application was rejected on those grounds. Really, who wants to give up so much for a few dollars and a chance to give a presentation? "

This is of course tongue-in-cheek right?

Re:There's always other places to turn to. by GammaStats on Friday October 19, 2007 @01:47PM (#70412)
Actually no,

One of the primary factors that makes me say this is that Google got over $12million for only a 10% stake in the company from Sequoia Capital. I learned about this after we had already applied.

If PG would have asked us for an interview and invited us, I (personally) would have rejected the offer if their stake was to be more than say 2%.

YC is asking for a huge chunk for slight benefits. Its not tongue-in-cheek, its strictly good business.