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Re:I worked on the US drone program. The public should know ... by rgbrenner on Sunday December 29, 2013 @12:16PM (#6980255)
Americans should be more concerned about the NSA spying on US citizens than on foreigners. Here's why:

When the US government decides a US citizen's communication patterns makes him a terrorist, the US government is free to knock down their door in the middle of the night and whisk them off to Guantanamo, and NO ONE except the US government can do anything to stop them.

When the US government decides a foreigner is a terrorist, they have to ASK your government to cooperate, and if they don't, the US has to be ready to go to war to kill/capture him.

The difference between the NSA spying on an American and a foreigner is that only the foreigner has a government that can protect them from the US government.

Re:I worked on the US drone program. The public should know ... by justin66 on Sunday December 29, 2013 @05:56PM (#6981884)
> The difference between the NSA spying on an American and a foreigner is that only the foreigner has a government that can protect them from the US government.

Pakistan is a nuclear power and even they don't have a government that can protect its people from the US government.

Re:I worked on the US drone program. The public should know ... by Bahamut on Sunday December 29, 2013 @12:58PM (#6980457)
> When the US government decides a US citizen's communication patterns makes him a terrorist, the US government is free to knock down their door in the middle of the night and whisk them off to Guantanamo, and NO ONE except the US government can do anything to stop them.

While I dislike how the U. S. government has decided that who they classify as terrorists superceding the rights of a US citizen, this is just wrong. Communicating with terrorists on a typical basis isn't enough for the U. S. government to do so - the only cases where I have heard of this happening is when the US citizen in question has carried out actual violent terrorist actions such as armed combat.

You have far less protection against the U. S. government if you are not a citizen, since there is nothing protecting you against broad actions. You can be assassinated in the middle of the night & your government wouldn't be able to do a damn thing to pre-empt that. There are also far less protections as to spying as well, but that has nothing to do with this article.

Re:I worked on the US drone program. The public should know ... by hackinthebochs on Sunday December 29, 2013 @03:46PM (#6981294)
> Communicating with terrorists on a typical basis isn't enough for the U. S. government to do so

For the time being. Do you think how the surveillance apparatus currently works is how it will always work in perpetuity?

Re:I worked on the US drone program. The public should know ... by revelation on Sunday December 29, 2013 @01:41PM (#6980646)
Arguably, if you are living in Pakistan or some other "near failed" state which gets military support from the US, you are at a much higher risk.

Some B.A. in the NSA digs through your traffic and decides you are some terrorist mastermind, next thing you know a Hellfire blows up your home and family.