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Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by mattmanser on Saturday December 28, 2013 @01:56PM (#6975804)
Isn't it far more likely to mean 'modification' and will be some sort of new marketplace to enhance the experiences of office & windows?

Like game mods and the modding community?

Seems far, far more likely than Mary's suggestion, guess she's not into gaming.

Also how can they file a trademark on a common computing term like mod?

Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by ubernostrum on Saturday December 28, 2013 @02:52PM (#6976134)
Because trademarks are restricted to a single specific field or class of products/services. Thus there is a Delta which is an airline (trademark applies to the air travel industry) and a Delta which makes faucets (trademark applies to faucets) and a Delta which does dental insurance (trademark applies to dental insurance), and...

In other words, it'll basically only apply to the things they do with it, and to any products/services which could be confused for those things.

Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by nitrogen on Saturday December 28, 2013 @03:20PM (#6976318)
But "mod" is already in widespread use in Microsoft's industry and with the same meaning.
Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by derleth on Saturday December 28, 2013 @03:08PM (#6976238)
Also, Cisco routers and Sysco restaurant supplies, even though a company that sold network hardware wouldn't be able to call itself Sysco for long. This is because the standard is confusion, not an exact string match. As per 15 USC § 1125:

> (a) Civil action

> (1) Any person who, on or in connection with any goods or services, or any container for goods, uses in commerce any word, term, name, symbol, or device, or any combination thereof, or any false designation of origin, false or misleading description of fact, or false or misleading representation of fact, which—

> (A) is likely to cause confusion, or to cause mistake, or to deceive as to the affiliation, connection, or association of such person with another person, or as to the origin, sponsorship, or approval of his or her goods, services, or commercial activities by another person, or

> (B) in commercial advertising or promotion, misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities, or geographic origin of his or her or another person’s goods, services, or commercial activities,

> shall be liable in a civil action by any person who believes that he or she is or is likely to be damaged by such act.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1125

This is because trademark law is a consumer protection law first and foremost, as opposed to being a property law like copyright and patent laws are. This is also why you can lose trademarks so easily: If you're not using it and defending it, it's presumed you don't care, so nobody's going to confuse an active trademark with a defunct one.

Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by aroman on Saturday December 28, 2013 @01:59PM (#6975825)
The same way Apple trademarked a the name of a fruit.

https://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/...

Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by sampk on Saturday December 28, 2013 @06:33PM (#6977154)
Huh? It wasn't a common computing term at all.
Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by brownbat on Saturday December 28, 2013 @09:10PM (#6977861)
Incidentally, it was a recording label before they essentially entered the music business:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6975459

Apple Computers won the litigation, but I'm not entirely sure why. The Beatles kept their albums off of iTunes for years because of it.

Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by asynchronous13 on Saturday December 28, 2013 @03:45PM (#6976472)
or how Microsoft trademarked a common GUI element
Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by bdcravens on Saturday December 28, 2013 @04:20PM (#6976655)
Were they referred to as "windows" 30 years ago? (I believe so, but I can't recall the exact source) It's easy to think it's a common GUI element name since we all refer to windows in various OS's, but back then, there could have been any number of valid names (panes, panels, boxes, mini-screens, etc)
Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by yareally on Saturday December 28, 2013 @04:29PM (#6976697)
WIMP (windows, icons, menus, pointer) was coined in 1980[1], though Xerox PARC was likely referring to them as "windows" even before that.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIMP_(computing)

Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by anonymfus on Saturday December 28, 2013 @06:41PM (#6977185)
You mean "It was coined by Merzouga Wilberts in 1980"?

Arhive.org's snapshot of Wikipedia's source:

https://web.archive.org/web/20131021094116/http://www.lottie...

Relevant fragment:

>The main aspect of the GUI was to use graphic metaphors for objects like computer programs and documents. Another man working with the computer scientists was a Graphic Designer called Norman Cox. He was responsible for designing a series of icons to make basic operations of the computer visible as actual objects. Merzouga Wilberts also came up with the concept of WIMP (windows, icons, menus and pointers). These interface objects create a feeling of familiarity and consistency for the user enabling a particular message to be conveyed. However, the technology was not yet available to develop the ‘Xerox Star’ and the management at Xerox was not willing to invest any funds into the project as they did not see it as a marketable product. This was a big mistake!

So looks like Charlotte Booth in that relatively modern article meant concept of the WIMP, not terminology.

Re:Microsoft applies for trademark on 'Mod' by jonnathanson on Saturday December 28, 2013 @05:41PM (#6976984)
"Seems far, far more likely than Mary's suggestion"

It's an interesting thought, but IMO, it seems less likely than Mary's suggestion.

"Mod," as in "modification" (whether in gaming specifically, or software in general), is an extremely common and borderline generic word that is unlikely to be granted as a trademark. It would be the equivalent of Coca-Cola's trying to trademark "soda" or "soft drink."

On the other hand, "Mod," as in "Modern" or "Modular," for the name of a UI or OS seems at least somewhat novel. I can't think of too many software products using the word "Mod" in that context. This is a usage that would actually stand a chance at being granted as a TM.