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Re:Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his... by k-mcgrady on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @05:57AM (#6958992)
>> "You're basically choosing between the US government or a combination of Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and Deutsche Telekom."

Honestly I'd be more happy with the telecom companies doing it. They can do much less harm with any data they get.

Re:Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his... by teddyh on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @06:30AM (#6959046)
And when the companies then give their data to the government?

The only solution is for the data never to exist at all.

Re:Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his... by phillmv on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @06:31AM (#6959047)
I'd prefer it if no one did it. I can imagine a future where your credit rating is influenced by your Facebook profile and it's not a fun one.
Re:Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his... by jonsleet on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @09:38AM (#6959483)
No, a corporation will do anything to increase its profits - or more accurately, dominance of its market. Anyone that can pay will get. With an added bonus of obscurity.

As an aside, when you think of corporations try not to think about the imagery they bathe you in. Think of a serial killer sidling up next to you all smiles and compliments. That would be more accurate.

Re:Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his... by CWuestefeld on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @12:48PM (#6960304)
I'm assuming that you work for a corporation. That corporation is made up of you, and a heap of other folks quite similar to you.

It's true that lots of corporations do unethical things, but you also should keep in mind that at its heart, it's people like you and I that are doing it. They respond to incentives like the rest of us, they (mostly) have a conscience, and generally try to do the right thing.

They're not always successful, but I don't think that your caricature is generally accurate.

Re:Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his... by jonsleet on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @04:37PM (#6961221)
No, I do not. I did work for several in the past and only one of those would I say operated "with conscience". They were overcome - overwhelmed by more "sinister" competition (of some reknown, wildly successful still). You need to see their operations as algorithms, and put numbers to actions. Ethical behavior often has a cost - and the counter unethical behavior can yield great gains - exposure may have a risk of a cost, but that may be mitigated with proxy agents, or marketing and relationship management. Someone has this all worked out, monte carloed through the gamut, including things that you might consider to be greatly evil.
Re:Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his... by enumBoss on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @07:30PM (#6964827)
And you usually have a choice with corporations. You can see in ToS how they plan to use your data and they often let you opt out. You don't get that with government agencies. Often you don't even know your data is taken since they're monitoring as much as they can see.
Re:Edward Snowden, after months of NSA revelations, says his... by ptaffs on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @08:54AM (#6959338)
oh agreed -- less harm. And when the government do it, we the people pay tax to enable it. US Taxpayers are paying for these buildings, mega-data centers, and contractors.