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Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by yelnatz on Monday December 23, 2013 @05:18PM (#6956900)
Wow, they write emails the same way they dress up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAzQPll7Lo

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by j79 on Monday December 23, 2013 @06:35PM (#6957318)
That was seriously painful to watch. From the host's hair, to the attempt at the rap genius guys trying to be "hip"... The entire thing feels like satire.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by maxcan on Monday December 23, 2013 @05:37PM (#6957018)
Its like someone wrote Entertainment 720 a check for $15mil
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by retr0h on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:31AM (#6958522)
Jean-Ralphio deserves much respect :P
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by mwal on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @02:18AM (#6958602)
The RapGenius guys just know how to treat themselves :)
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by philwelch on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:40AM (#6958541)
If Sacha Baron Cohen made a movie where Ali G moves to San Francisco to do a startup, he'd fit right in with these guys.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by minimaxir on Monday December 23, 2013 @06:34PM (#6957316)
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by thenmar on Monday December 23, 2013 @05:33PM (#6956999)
It's almost a satire of "hip" startup culture. Almost.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by JonnieCache on Monday December 23, 2013 @06:23PM (#6957271)
Is this a joke? That video did not agree with me. My vision is blurred, and I think I can taste metal...
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by kaolinite on Monday December 23, 2013 @07:06PM (#6957428)
I'd love to hear the story behind this image of PG with the RapGenius guys: http://instagram.com/p/XTLO9UH66L/
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by solistice on Monday December 23, 2013 @09:32PM (#6957922)
Well, PG got some RapGenius swag and looks visibly uncomfortable.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by Tossrock on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:32AM (#6958526)
He also appears to be calling the guy next to him a loser
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by google666s on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @12:53PM (#6960331)
You caught that too, huh!? Brilliant photo-bomb PG!
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by dylandrop on Monday December 23, 2013 @06:52PM (#6957376)
Oof, that video is cringe-worthy ("baller-sourced" please no..). Moreover, they're dressed and acting _exactly_ like CollegeHumor's The Startup Guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMmdl4VltD4

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by victorhooi on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @02:43AM (#6958639)
You do realize they're probably just sending up the genre, right?

So while we're sitting around going "OMG!!! What a bunch of douches!!!", they're sitting on $15 million and thinking...actually I don't think they really even care what we think...lol.

When I saw that video, it was obviously a send-up.

See this - their interview with Ben Horowitz from February 2013:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpvrWdfEUHg

Compare the two videos - notice something?

I have no idea why, but these guys seem to invoke HN-fury like no other...lol.

Personally I don't even like rap music, and I can't stand people like that (whether they're putting it on or not), but I have to tip my hat to these guys, they're smart, driven, they have capital and they've actually gone out and accomplished something.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by baby on Monday December 23, 2013 @06:57PM (#6957395)
I don't see the way they are dressed relevant here. Why are people upvoting stuff like that more and more on HN?
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Monday December 23, 2013 @07:46PM (#6957590)
Because they make rape jokes and dress and talk like a bunch of narcissistic, conceited, swagtards.

3 founders, all wearing shades indoors. They're not movie stars and what they are doing is somewhat trivial yet they've trumped themselves up a new level with their sleezy tactics. All I can say is that gp invested in immaturity.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by Crito on Monday December 23, 2013 @07:57PM (#6957628)
Rape jokes are contemptible enough, but their sense of fashion is not. It may be something that you personally appreciate, but you should not expect others to tailor their fashion sense to please you in particular.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Monday December 23, 2013 @08:04PM (#6957659)
Pfft, it's not fashion sense when you're wearing shades indoors. It's a boorish debauchery, utmost disrespect.

Furthermore, it's easier to be a douchenozzle with shades on, because eye contact tends to make one more susceptible to the crowd's feelings.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by victorhooi on Monday December 23, 2013 @08:53PM (#6957801)
Look, I think sunglasses indoors are a silly thing, but then I probably think the same thing about a lot of fashion.

But then, as my wife says, I have terrible dress sense...lol.

It's fashion - you don't need to get it (and I certainly don't). It's a subjective thing, so to each their own.

And to go on about how they're "douchenozzles" (is that even a word?), or their "boorish debauchery" sounds like you're just looking to be offended.

It doesn't harm you directly how these guy dress, or how Justin Bieber dresses, or does his hair, so I don't see the point of working myself into a sweat over it.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Monday December 23, 2013 @09:26PM (#6957909)
Justin Bieber is not a technical cofounder, he's a kidbob singer. These guys have the responsibility to represent their company technically, and are throwing a mad fork in it.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by kyleshockey on Monday December 23, 2013 @10:00PM (#6957999)
Being founders, they also have the responsibility to connect with their audience. Rap Genius is a music site, so it's not a bad idea for the founders to emulate the antics of the musicians that create the material people go to Rap Genius to see. You can call it unconventional, but you can't say they don't know their audience.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by victorhooi on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @03:06AM (#6958686)
And while we're all sitting here debating whether Rap Genius is "baller or no, y'all", they're probably sitting around thinking "Gee, I have this giant pile of $50 million. Gosh, I wonder what all those people lurking on HN think about us? I had best find out!".

Actually, quite frankly, I don't think they give two cents what we say about them...lol.

But even money aside, they've managed to actually accomplish something tangible, so for that they have my respect.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by Edmond on Monday December 23, 2013 @08:24PM (#6957712)
I think the ridiculous outfit and antics is part of their shtick...I am sure they are aware that they look and act ridiculous.

If there is a point to criticize them on, it would be that they are making fun of rappers and rap/hip-hop culture, the same culture they are no doubt trying to appropriate to the tune of many millions I would guess.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Monday December 23, 2013 @11:58PM (#6958299)
What's the difference between pretending to be a douchebag and actually being a douchebag? Nil.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by Edmond on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @09:26AM (#6959433)
I think there is a difference, Sacha Cohen (of Borat fame) plays a mega-douchebag but AFAIK he doesn't have a reputation of actually being one.

Their tactic may not be to your liking but they aren't the first to adopt characters as a way to promote their business.

As I said, the critic I have of them is that they're slily indulging in stereotypes and I am surprised they haven't been called out on that.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @10:45AM (#6959759)
Sacha does it for a noble cause, comedic effect and makes it obvious that he's not serious. These guys are not trying to be entertaining, they're profiteering through hidden agendas perpetrated on their too-dumb-to-realize-it-audience.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by Crito on Monday December 23, 2013 @08:43PM (#6957779)
"it's not fashion sense when you're wearing shades indoors"

You had better believe that there is room in fashion for clothing without utility.

utmost disrespect."

Being able to be offended by somebody wearing sunglasses is a problem you are going to have to work on. The inability to tolerate the existence of those who are unlike you is a personal failing.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Monday December 23, 2013 @09:57PM (#6957987)
I don't need to validate an obvious facet of communication. When someone is wearing shades, their emotions are harder to read. It's a large form of insecurity on their part, not on mine. When you have three dudes, who are heads of the company, wearing sunglasses indoors, it shows a level of insecurity and immaturity. You can attempt to hide your eye contact through shades but everyone is going to know that you're not being straight. These guys are total tools. I have nothing to work on, I don't find it necessary to tolerate fools and people who find it cool to be disrespectful.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by Crito on Monday December 23, 2013 @10:36PM (#6958102)
Pop-psychology bullshit. Sunglasses are fashion accessories; learn to cope.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Monday December 23, 2013 @11:39PM (#6958249)
Oh, I'm so hurt, I need to cope. /s

Wear sunglasses indoors and be an asshat, it isn't my problem. A basic facet of communication is to look at those you speak to in the eyes. Maybe you're too far nerd/asspergered or swag-frat to understand. It's alright, one day you'll cope with a thing called 'logic' and 'basic human decency.'

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by HeyImAlex on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @12:34AM (#6958381)
Did you seriously, in the process of calling out rapgenius for making rape jokes, just use the terms "swagtard" and "aspergered"?
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by victorhooi on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @03:03AM (#6958674)
I'm still trying to work out if goldenkey is actually trolling us, or if he's actually incapable of seeing the irony of what he's saying...lol.

If he is actually serious:

Sorry, making retard jokes is not funny - heck, the term retard isn't even politically correct last time I checked - nor is making jokes about Asperger's syndrome funny...

Still, unlike you, I don't really care if you make jokes I consider unfunny shrugs. Each to their own.

However, it is called "hypocrisy" when you manage to inappropriately insult two minority groups in the process of calling somebody else out for being inappropriate.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:15AM (#6958489)
Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger disorder (AD) or simply Asperger's, is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) that is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication.

A large majority of hackers have aspergers. A friend of mine, the famous hacker Captain Crunch, aka John Draper, is immensely talented yet has problems understanding normal human communication schemes.

It's possible that Crito has aspergers or is a swagtard like the Rap Genius guys. If he has aspergers, it's perfectly reasonable for him to not understand the point I'm making as his ability to pick up on nuances of human communication would be flawed.

In the swagtard case, he needs to defend his habit of wearing glasses indoors, otherwise his self-image would immensely suffer, and his ego would shatter. That's worse than death for those who judge themselves by their ability to be cool.

So how can you compare what I said to a rape joke? Nothing is humorous here, it's all very seriously logical.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by d23 on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @10:26AM (#6959682)
Well the "swagtard" thing seems a little gauche, so I can understand why they're down-voting. But your point on the sunglasses is ridiculously obvious and it's pretty cringe-worthy that people are defending it as somehow not disrespectful and an obvious sign of arrogance.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @10:43AM (#6959749)
I said swag-frat and somehow the reply convinces me that I said 'swagtard.' I'm not trying to insult retards, and it'd be pretty hard considering that it's a pretty factual condition in which brainpower is quite limited. There's nothing wrong with saying that people who place all their value in swag, aren't using their full brain power. If anything it's crude but not anywhere near a rape joke. Anyhow, the term was 'swag-frat' not swag-tard. And by that I meant the whole bro-be-cool culture of being stupid and dressing obnoxiously.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by eropple on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @07:49PM (#6961762)
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @03:38AM (#6962602)
Eh, well in my other reply, I used swag-frat. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6958249

It's silly to think I'm going to offend retards, most would not care in the least about some minor point on HN, let alone understand it.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by Crito on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @09:44PM (#6961985)
"I said swag-frat and somehow the reply convinces me that I said 'swagtard.'"

What the hell is the point of flat out lying if you aren't even going to edit your past comments to support your lie?

Go troll elsewhere on the internet.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by GrinningFool on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @09:50PM (#6962000)
"A large majority of hackers have aspergers. "

Wait, what?

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by Crito on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @05:16PM (#6961329)
> Wear sunglasses indoors

Here is the thing: I don't. That you think I must is extremely telling however.

I just don't have trouble grappling with the concept of people who are unlike myself. It is not hard for me to conceive of people who dress unlike me for non-utilitarian reasons. That is what fashion is. Further, I don't have to subscribe to a particular fashion to recognize those fashions for what they are; fashions.

Who is really too far "nerd/asspergered" here (seriously, your comments are so steeped in irony it is absurd...)? The person who cannot comprehend that fashion is not about utility and cannot stand those who are unlike him? Or the person who calling that intolerant, fashion-ignorant, bullshit.

Fashion is about more than utility. Your particular way of dressing is not the best way of dressing; stop dreaming up pop-psych self-aggrandizing bullshit to make yourself feel superior. Not everyone who calls you on your shit participates in the fashion trends which you vilify. Grow up.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Wednesday December 25, 2013 @07:43AM (#6962901)
It's not fashion to wear glasses indoors. It's borderline retarded. Let's move the setting, you're having dinner with someone. They are wearing sunglasses. Any reasonable person will say, 'hey can you take those fucking things off, I'm trying to talk to you'
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by PavlovsCat on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @03:11AM (#6958697)
"The inability to tolerate the existence of those who are unlike you is a personal failing."

That's kind of ironic, since you can't seem to get over the fact that someone, unlike you, considers the RG founders douchebags. See how sophistry works both ways?

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by caprad on Monday December 23, 2013 @11:36PM (#6958242)
> They're not movie stars and what they are doing is somewhat trivial yet they've trumped themselves up a new level with their sleezy tactics.

What they are doing is not trivial at all. They managed to raise $15 million for a very simple idea, that is pretty hard to do.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by goldenkey on Monday December 23, 2013 @11:49PM (#6958274)
Genetic logical fallacy detected:

http://i.imgur.com/OOA8QzF.jpg

Just because funding was accomplished doesn't mean they aren't slimy underlings. In fact, given that you mention merely finance, you should acknowledge that funding is totally disparate of their ethics.

Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by the_truth_is on Monday December 23, 2013 @09:23PM (#6957896)
They are wearing sunglasses indoors because they are high. Pretty common trick.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by swader on Monday December 23, 2013 @08:07PM (#6957676)
I thought I was watching an Onion video for a while there, but nope.. real.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by mladenkovacevic on Monday December 23, 2013 @06:07PM (#6957190)
I hope those comments continue. After dawg and G, I'm on the edge of my seat to find out what comes next.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by the_rosentotter on Monday December 23, 2013 @05:27PM (#6956956)
I just barfed a little watching that.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by golergka on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @02:17AM (#6958599)
At least they're staying true to themselves.
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by kbar13 on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @12:27AM (#6958361)
what is that thing on that dude's face? Is that really hair?
Re:RapGenius Growth Hack Exposed by weixiyen on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @06:54PM (#6961622)