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Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by reikonomusha on Saturday December 21, 2013 @02:57PM (#6947760)
Just to note for people who know about SICP: this book is not like that. The book jumps straight into basic principles of Lagrangian mechanics, talking about the least action principle and the Euler-Lagrange equations. It is not "mechanics 101 for smart people" like SICP is for computer science.

With that said, the computational approach they take is unique and useful. You'd especially like it if you like Scheme and the coding style found in SICP.

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by batbomb on Saturday December 21, 2013 @03:24PM (#6947894)
Learning Lagrangian mechanics was like falling in love all over again with your girlfriend when you discovered exactly how elegant she could be. Easily my favorite part of classical mechanics as an undergrad.
Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by weland on Saturday December 21, 2013 @05:30PM (#6948363)
Same here. In highschool, I really struggled with classical mechanics. A lot of things didn't click, because they were taught to us before we were taught calculus, and a lot of what I was seeing in class simply didn't make much sense. I understood the words and I could do the math, but never actually felt like I had a grip on it.

Fast forward to my freshman year and poof! mechanics suddely isn't a mess of because-i-said-so formulae that sort of make some physical sense. It's an elegant, well-thought system that can help you understand the world.

I had a further moment of revelation later on, when I seriously studied philosophy. It doesn't look like much now, but when put into their historical context, the discoveries made by Galilei and Newton are amazing leaps in human thought.

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by CurtMonash on Sunday December 22, 2013 @05:50AM (#6949972)
Microeconomics is as bad as physics in that respect -- if the course doesn't assume calculus, they wind up reinventing anyway. It's not worth the trouble to study either subject unless knowledge of calculus is assumed.
Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by zbinga on Saturday December 21, 2013 @11:37PM (#6949366)
This. Exactly this, and I think it's not a coincidence that learning Scheme was also like this, but for programming.
Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by tgb on Saturday December 21, 2013 @04:36PM (#6948168)
On the idea of "mechanics 101 for smart people" - can anyone recommend good books that are the analogs of SICP for other subjects? I'd love to know ones for, say, genetics or evolution as well as stats.

I can say that Hubbard + Hubbard "Vector Calculus, Linear Algebra, and Differential Equations" does a good job of being that for vector calculus specifically and for exposure to theoretical mathematics.

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by CurtMonash on Saturday December 21, 2013 @08:33PM (#6948921)
On a more elementary level, Michael Spivak's Calculus is an amazing book on first-year calculus.

He also wrote Calculus on Manifolds and a 5-volume series on Differential Geometry. Those, to put it mildly, were rougher going.

I actually once got a crush on a dorm-mate in large part because I saw Calculus on Manifolds on her bookshelf. It wasn't reciprocal, however. Later in life, she went on to run the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by ics on Sunday December 22, 2013 @12:30AM (#6949478)
> I actually once got a crush on a dorm-mate in large part because I saw Calculus on Manifolds on her bookshelf. It wasn't reciprocal, however. Later in life, she went on to run the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

I had someone I'd never met before see my copy which happened to be the international edition (in Chinese, with English in the back) and then assume I spoke fluent Mandarin. Your story's a lot better :)

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by CurtMonash on Sunday December 22, 2013 @05:48AM (#6949970)
I lived 3 years in a Harvard grad school dormitory. One meets a variety of interesting people in such a place. E.g., I once pitched a foreign policy maven dorm-mate on caring more about Africa ... and it was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Dobriansky, who 25 years later had a very major role in combating AIDS. But http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes was a jerk who couldn't stomach losing to a math student at Scrabble. :)
Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by mrcactu5 on Sunday December 22, 2013 @07:13PM (#6952388)
I remember being disappointed with Calculus on Manifolds, since it was very abstract. I was looking for something with more explicit calculations. To this end, I was quite happy with Edwards "Advanced Calculus"

http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Calculus-David-V-Widder/dp/04... http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Calculus-Several-Variables-Ma...

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by tgb on Sunday December 22, 2013 @09:59AM (#6950451)
Yeah Hubbard & Hubbard that I recommended is a more approachable take on Calculus on Manifolds (which it is based on or inspired by). It's still not simple, but it's probably a bit easier-going for the modern student than Spivak.
Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by tMcGrath on Sunday December 22, 2013 @04:29AM (#6949853)
For statistics I can really recommend 'All of Statistics' by Larry Wasserman (http://www.stat.cmu.edu/~larry/all-of-statistics/)

It runs through a lot of important topics, particularly in inference, without being either as turgid as most stats texts for people without a maths background or as dry as more 'pure' books (no measure theory required).

For biology I'd recommend 'Physical Biology of the Cell' (http://microsite.garlandscience.com/pboc2/) if you like to think quantitatively. About evolution specifically I find Schrodinger's 'What is Life?' thought-provoking if you already know the basics.

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by fancyketchup on Saturday December 21, 2013 @04:44PM (#6948204)
I'm currently preparing for a course based around The Theoretical Minimum by Leonard Susskind, which (so far) seems like exactly what you're looking for. The beginning has a very quick recap of state spaces, vectors, calculus, etc. It goes over Lagrangian mechanics and conservation laws in the middle before finishing with Poisson brackets.

The table of contents also claims a chapter on E&M, but I haven't looked at that yet.

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by cconroy on Saturday December 21, 2013 @05:03PM (#6948285)
Almost finished Vol I of Feynman Lectures On Physics. So far, Im picking up on the same enthusiasm and joy. A real pleasure to read.

Euclid's Elements too for geometry is fantastic. (I think reading "from the horses mouth" is necessary but not sufficient. With guys like Newton especially, since there are no translation barriers (for us English speakers), and they are quite relatable.)

I have noticed that excursions? in history of a topic; its people, places, culture, enhance the quality of the book. Feynman goes on historical asides, as does say, Apostol (in his calculus texts), and it has been a while but I believe SICP does too. I think the teaching of something should be coupled with its history.

In this same vein, I'm too am interested in a book covering evolution and biology, but I have not found one, or heard of one, so if anybody knows I would greatly appreciate it. Two good bio books I have read are The Selfish Gene, and The Machinery Of Life (Goodsell), but they're more auxiliary.

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by nextos on Saturday December 21, 2013 @06:07PM (#6948475)
I'm quite fond of Watson's Molecular Biology of the Gene (not to be confused with Molecular Biology of the Cell).

In the stats camp, Jaynes is fantastic, alas a bit difficult. But the prerequisites are very modest. It's self-contained.

Hoel, Port & Stone's volume is a great introduction to basic (w/o measure theory) probability.

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by aufreak3 on Sunday December 22, 2013 @01:29PM (#6951108)
"A course in mathematics for students of physics" (volumes 1 and 2) by Paul Bamberg and Schlomo Sternberg. [1] [2]

I loved both the books! I replaced my course textbooks with these and am eternally thankful I did that. Volume 2, in particular, is really cool where you get introduced to the exterior calculus formulation of circuit theory, leading to Maxwell's equations.

[1] http://www.amazon.com/Course-Mathematics-Students-Physics/dp... [2] http://www.amazon.com/Course-Mathematics-Students-Physics-Vo...

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by santaclaus on Saturday December 21, 2013 @08:33PM (#6948922)
I'm a big fan Landau and Lifshitz's "Mechanics." Starting from nothing they hit the major results in classical mechanics in 224 pages. Short. Sweet. Elegant.
Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by mrcactu5 on Sunday December 22, 2013 @07:10PM (#6952382)
Doesn't Feynman Lectures do that? http://feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_toc.html
Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by wuschel on Saturday December 21, 2013 @05:38PM (#6948385)
Neat.

Does anyone have a epub/mobi version of this book?

Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by tjr on Sunday December 22, 2013 @12:10PM (#6950812)
What would be good prerequisite reading before SICM?
Re:Structure and Interpretation of Classical Mechanics by reikonomusha on Sunday December 22, 2013 @12:42PM (#6950926)
At least an understanding of:

* Newtonian mechanics

* Multivariable calculus

* Ordinary differential equations

* Basic functional programming, Scheme, SICP

* A developed discipline for reading higher level mathematical material, including new notations and ideas