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Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by ehsanu1 on Thursday December 19, 2013 @10:07AM (#6935012)
Like it or not, irregardless is here to stay. Languages change, mispellings become the correct way to spell things, words become their own antonyms, and a lot of other very strange things. Embrace it!
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by ahallock on Thursday December 19, 2013 @11:10AM (#6935491)
It's just wrong. Why embrace things that don't make sense? Are we embracing the Idiocracy?
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by swalkergibson on Thursday December 19, 2013 @10:27AM (#6935128)
I reject your implication. Just because a lot of people use it does not make it grammatically accurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless

Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by JangoSteve on Thursday December 19, 2013 @10:43AM (#6935252)
> Just because a lot of people use it does not make it grammatically accurate.

Actually, that's exactly what it does... over time. Where exactly do you think our language, as it exists today, came from?

Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by ds_ on Thursday December 19, 2013 @11:00AM (#6935404)
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by 3minus1 on Thursday December 19, 2013 @11:14AM (#6935517)
@swalkergibson flammable and inflammable both mean the same thing.
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by swalkergibson on Thursday December 19, 2013 @11:20AM (#6935558)
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by swalkergibson on Thursday December 19, 2013 @11:03AM (#6935439)
Of course language evolves, but a double-negative is a double-negative, no matter how you slice it. Do you have another example of a single word that is a double-negative?
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by testing12341234 on Thursday December 19, 2013 @05:02PM (#6938232)
And yet one of the father's of written modern English, Chaucer himself often used double negatives [0].

ex:

"Ther nas no man no wher so vertuous" ("There never was no man nowhere so virtuous")

"He nevere yet no vileynye ne sayde / In all his lyf unto no maner wight" ("He never yet no vileness didn't say / In all his life to no manner of man").

The modern English language (written and spoken) has been in constant flux for the last 600+ years. What was once required is now antiquated, and what was once verboten is now required.

At this moment in time, double negatives are frowned upon. However, that may change in the future, and it's possible that irregardless is the start of a new set of changes in the language.

[0] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_negative

Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by dragonwriter on Thursday December 19, 2013 @05:08PM (#6938265)
> And yet one of the father's of written modern English, Chaucer himself often used double negatives [0].

It's worth noting that neither of your examples has a double negative. Triple negative (the second possibly quadruple), sure, but not double.

> At this moment in time, double negatives are frowned upon.

I don't know that there's really a shift in time with the double negative, its a stylistic rule, and, much like the Pirate Code, stylistic rules in English are more what you'd call guidelines than actual rules.

Or, looked at another way, more like training wheels.

Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by testing12341234 on Thursday December 19, 2013 @07:18PM (#6938983)
Guidelines indeed. For reference, here is an example of a double negative from the Prologue to the Canterbury Tales:

Nowher so bisy a man as he ther nas [0] (Nowhere so busy a man as he there none)

[0] http://www.bartleby.com/40/0102.html line 321

Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by nekopa on Thursday December 19, 2013 @11:52AM (#6935824)
Unless?
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by bicknergseng on Thursday December 19, 2013 @12:53PM (#6936324)
Oh snap.
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by krsunny on Thursday December 19, 2013 @08:09PM (#6939240)
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Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by ricardobeat on Thursday December 19, 2013 @12:15PM (#6936010)
That link, and the mere fact it exists, contradicts your point. Irregardless is a word [...]

Irregardless, it's not about being grammatically correct, but being socially accepted and understood; just like slang and broken grammar that develops in subcultures, it ain't no goin anywhere!

Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by swalkergibson on Thursday December 19, 2013 @01:09PM (#6936430)
So why would you want to use it? What is the point of saying irregardless vis-a-vis irrespective or regardless?
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by saraid216 on Thursday December 19, 2013 @06:19PM (#6938720)
Trolling the language police is a pretty good reason, actually.
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by jimmcslim on Thursday December 19, 2013 @11:02PM (#6939858)
I am whelmed by this whole conversation!
Re:Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js by typeslower on Thursday December 19, 2013 @12:20PM (#6936072)
Is it fair to call this willful ignorance?