Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by jnbiche on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @06:45PM
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Excluding an entity like the NSA, who cares nothing for $200,000 (literally a rounding error in their budget), but everything for the information available for the taking.
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by loganu on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @07:02PM
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While I agree with your point, immediately jumping to the NSA and their bottomless pool of resources and talent is kind of the new Godwin's law.
Logan's law: In any given discussion tangentially related to security, the thing presented as "secure" will be soon declared "definitely not secure"... because...NSA.
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by jnbiche on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @09:47PM
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I actually agree with the motivation behind your argument -- it's ridiculous to pull out unknown NSA capabilities as a foil to every crypto argument.
I just wanted to point out that there were times when money was not a very good motivator for someone who could break a given encryption system.
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by capnjngl on Thursday December 19, 2013 @11:21AM
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Snowden's Law
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by forgottenpass on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @09:06PM
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OK, but where the hell are they going to get 2.5 months of highly motivated attacks by highly skilled people? All the people I would want looking at this aren't going to waste such a huge chunk of their time analyzing some random phone app trying to make a name for themselves for a chance at a cash reward.
Bug bounties by big name companies that are actually after bugs rather than publicity haven't miraculously made all their software perfect. And they don't have an end date either.
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by paveldurov on Thursday December 19, 2013 @03:09AM
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I agree with you here. That is why such contests are going to be permanent in Telegram. New contests like this will be launched in March 2014 or earlier if anyone wins earlier. Consider the date for breaking Telegram open.
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by forgottenpass on Thursday December 19, 2013 @09:30AM
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Your interest rings a bit hollow when you define a very narrow attack surface for the bounty, and dismiss architectural criticism beyond it.
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by bcoates on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @08:03PM
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Nobody's claiming it won't work; they're claiming it will work in a way that is dangerous to its users.
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by killertypo on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @06:54PM
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i have a day job and i'm not going to drop everything for the chance i won't make any money at all... told-you-so factor or not.
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by saraid216 on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @07:28PM
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I feel obligated to point out that it may be worth it if you make less than $200k in 2.5 months.
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by foxylad on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @07:14PM
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I could imagine a lot of university math students (young, hungry, nothing to lose) would be highly motivated by this.
Re:$200,000 to the first person to break Telegram
by anonymoushn on Wednesday December 18, 2013 @06:50PM
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Not quite 2.5 months.
If it proves resilient over 2.5 months of highly motivated attacks (motivated by both the money / "I-Told-You-So" factor), I think that's a fairly strong statement in their favor.