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Re:Miguel De Icaza: Microsoft promises to never sue anyone r... by spitfire on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @01:06AM (#690966)
Bwhahahahahaha.

You want to trust Microsoft to keep their words? Really? When has that ever happened in the past, ever.

You can trust them to do everything in their power to screw you over and nothing short.

This isn't a fanboy hate post either. From a purely business perspective aligning with Microsoft is toxic.

Re:Miguel De Icaza: Microsoft promises to never sue anyone r... by bad_user on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @01:34AM (#690992)
You don't have to trust Microsoft. If trust was required for collaboration, contracts would've been useless.

You can trust the legal system though ... what you're looking for it's called "estoppel": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estoppel

Re:Miguel De Icaza: Microsoft promises to never sue anyone r... by gtufano on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @05:41AM (#691205)
Interesting, but I don't think that this concept applies to the "civil law" countries.
Re:Miguel De Icaza: Microsoft promises to never sue anyone r... by spitfire on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @01:43AM (#691001)
You sir, have balls of brass.

I am not a risk taker and will follow after you succeed.

Re:Miguel De Icaza: Microsoft promises to never sue anyone r... by azharcs on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @02:36AM (#691042)
I really wonder if this is anything other than a fanboy hate post. I am not going to dissect your comment and explain it why it is a fanboy post, you can do it when you are free.

I know its fashionable to hate Microsoft, but sometimes it creates a narrow-mindedness which results in, we Entrepreneurs or Hackers to miss out on good opportunities if we are going to be this religious.

This isn't a fanboy hate post either. From a purely business perspective aligning with Microsoft is toxic.

I don't know what you mean by toxic, there are 1000's of companies like Adobe, Autodesk, id Softwares, EA etc which went on to make Millions and Billions of Dollars because they aligned with Microsoft and built over their platform. If maybe John Carmack was religious enough to hate Microsoft or not build over their platform, he wouldn't have created one of the best game developing company. Maybe he would have spent his time discussing what color the next version of Macbook would be, on discussions.apple.com.

Re:Miguel De Icaza: Microsoft promises to never sue anyone r... by ZeroGravitas on Tuesday July 07, 2009 @04:18AM (#691137)
Doesn't your last line completely undermine your argument and your moral authority to comment on fanboys?
Re:Miguel De Icaza: Microsoft promises to never sue anyone r... by ZeroGravitas on Wednesday July 08, 2009 @10:28AM (#693942)
Also, historical note from MacUser, Jan 1997:

"For the last word I'll hand over to John Carmack, Technical Director of ID Software, who used NeXTSTEP to develop Doom and parts of Quake (that's right!): "We developed lots of products under dos (mostly borland c++), and never want to again. We went through five major iterations of our tools under DOS, and they are all junk below our first iteration of NS tools. You can't really just point at specific things and claim superiority. It is the complete package that has the appeal. NS is the best tool I have found for MY development work."

from http://www.paullynch.org/NeXTSTEP/NeXTSTEP.TechReview.html