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Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by DanBC on Thursday December 12, 2013 @07:02AM (#6894001)
That is an absolutely terrible idea.

You are asked when you check in if anyone has given you anything to carry for them. You presumably answered "no" to that question, yet now you're saying "Yes, they asked me to carry this unknown data".

They don't care if you know the password or not. They care if the data can be made available in plaintext or not. While you do not know the password you do know the method of making the plaintext available - you get whoever does know the passphrase to enter it. Thus, you're going to be detained until the passphrase turns up, or the machine is going to be confiscated and all data cloned and you're going to be denied entry.

Being denied entry is expensive. It also has consequences for future travel. Visas might be different. Customs clearance will be different. Possibility of getting in is lower.

> You can just tell em "Take it up with my superior back home"

They do this all the time. Watch a couple of hours of any of the various border-crossing / customs control "reality" tv shows. You'll see someone held in a room for hours, questioned for hours, with all their documents being searched for phone numbers and people being called to corroborate the story. They have no problem making phone calls back home and to the destination country.

This method is going out of your way to give them something to detain you for; it is making extra effort to look guilty.

Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by robryk on Thursday December 12, 2013 @07:34AM (#6894098)
> You are asked when you check in if anyone has given you anything to carry for them. You presumably answered "no" to that question, yet now you're saying "Yes, they asked me to carry this unknown data".

Not necessarily. You could have encrypted the data to your friend's asymmetric keypair. Then you aren't technically carrying any data other than your own.

Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by drharris on Thursday December 12, 2013 @08:30AM (#6894268)
Clever, but try explaining that to these people. Most barely seem to have a high school diploma, much less understand encryption.
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by DrJ on Thursday December 12, 2013 @12:21PM (#6895623)
I have a box that I put a lock on, I left the keys to this lock with my friend and he will send it to me when I get to my destination.
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by jedahan on Friday December 13, 2013 @01:31AM (#6899366)
why not just actually put your laptop in a lockbox like that?
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by brianpgordon on Friday December 13, 2013 @03:39PM (#6902777)
And then hide your drugs inside the laptop.
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by drharris on Thursday December 12, 2013 @12:56PM (#6895875)
Ok, well done. :)
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by bmelton on Friday December 13, 2013 @03:44AM (#6899613)
Why would you need to explain anything at all?

"Has anyone given you anything to carry for them?"

No.

Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by yaeger on Friday December 13, 2013 @04:04AM (#6899647)
That is precisely what I meant when I said that I encrypt my laptop and have someone else choose the password.

Is that "unkown data" as the guy above you seems to believe? Hardly. If I pack my suitcase and then just have a friend come in with a padlock to which only he holds the key and he locks it, are the contents on my suitcase unknown to me? No, they aren't. They are my belongings and I just chose, for security reasons to not only stop carrying the key on me but to not even knowing what that key is.

Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by e_proxus on Thursday December 12, 2013 @07:34AM (#6894097)
You could create a hidden partition in your TrueCrypt volume, put some plausible data in the public partition and give them the password for that.
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by Retric on Thursday December 12, 2013 @07:56AM (#6894161)
Why bother when you can just download anything you want after you cross customs.
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by prawn on Friday December 13, 2013 @12:06AM (#6899181)
Are we trusting cloud storage now? I would've thought that could be susceptible to official or unofficial attack.
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by rfnslyr on Thursday December 12, 2013 @11:09AM (#6895155)
Because I should not have to go out of my way to make a legal activity, LOOK like a legal activity, when it's not even remotely illegal. It's privacy, that's all it is. Lock is to box as encryption is to computer.

We live in a very sad state of affairs that will continue to deteriorate.

Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by dpark on Thursday December 12, 2013 @11:16AM (#6895199)
> Lock is to box as encryption is to computer.

Um, you realize that you can't carry locked boxes through customs and then refuse to open them, right? That comparison actually hurts the case for taking encrypted data through customs.

Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by rfnslyr on Thursday December 12, 2013 @11:35AM (#6895337)
Fill it with whatever analogy works for you then, you know what I mean.
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by dpark on Thursday December 12, 2013 @11:44AM (#6895380)
The issue is that refusing to let customs inspect your electronics is illegal. This is the broken thing. Encrypting is just a half-assed way to try to get past this (I say half-assed, because it doesn't work). I don't especially care that encrypting doesn't "look legal". I care that customs has the right to inspect the digital contents of my devices. That is a completely pointless invasion of my privacy. It doesn't reduce crime. It doesn't protect the country I'm entering. It's just an exercise of power.
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by rfnslyr on Thursday December 12, 2013 @12:13PM (#6895565)
So do I have to create a hidden volume on my computer then?
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by danielnr on Thursday December 12, 2013 @01:13PM (#6896003)
It's important to remember the destructive nature of Truecrypt's hidden volume function. Unless you use both keys to unlock the volume, opening the outer volume and allowing the OS to load will destroy the hidden volume that has your real files. It's meant to be a last-resort against a "Use this wrench and beat the password out of him" scenario.
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by e_proxus on Friday December 13, 2013 @04:51AM (#6899773)
I've only used it with a TrueCrypt volume as a file, where it works flawlessly (unless you continue to add files to the public volume). See http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/hidden-volume
Re:Backpacker stripped of tech gear at Auckland Airport by DanBC on Thursday December 12, 2013 @09:00AM (#6894404)
You could. You're carrying encrypted data across borders. That shouldn't be anything that raises flags, and we need to campaign to make it normal. (After all, US businesses need to protect the US by stopping US technology and trade secrets and etc from getting into the hands of foreign spies).

But sadly we live in a world where carrying encrypted data is a flag, and will get you more scrutiny, and get your name put on lists.

It also doesn't help if you carry the passphrase on you with your encrypted data.