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Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by sseveran on Sunday December 08, 2013 @12:56PM (#6870455)
If you stop chasing profits then there is no incentive to produce a quality product. The US public schools are a great example of that.
Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by mooreds on Sunday December 08, 2013 @01:00PM (#6870473)
But are profits the best way to measure a "quality product" when it comes to something like education?

I would argue not, or at least that externalized costs need to be internalized somehow (regulation or taxation are the typical means).

That is to say, if we have for profit public schools, I'd want their profits to be tied to the long term effects of results of their students, not to yearly test scores.

Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by nickff on Sunday December 08, 2013 @01:11PM (#6870537)
>if we have for profit public schools, I'd want their profits to be tied to the long term effects of results of their students, not to yearly test scores.

This is a great idea! Why not do the same for government-run schoolteachers? This may help attract and retain high quality staff, as well as providing low-skilled teachers an incentive to leave.

Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by grahamburger on Sunday December 08, 2013 @03:03PM (#6871120)
Are you suggesting that I can't determine for myself if a particular school is providing a good long term education for my child? Or that I shouldn't be able to choose to take them to a different school?
Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by steveklabnik on Sunday December 08, 2013 @12:58PM (#6870463)
There's no inherent incentive to produce a quality product when chasing profit either, just one that people will give you money for. Sometimes this aligns with quality, other times, it does not.
Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by te_chris on Sunday December 08, 2013 @01:29PM (#6870654)
Unless schools somehow got paid for good outcomes then this is a specious argument.
Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by saraid216 on Monday December 09, 2013 @01:36AM (#6873097)
Why do Americans always insist on conceiving of children as products? Why do they always insist that schools produce children? Last I checked, we disallow reproduction at schools.
Re:David Simon: 'There are now two Americas. My country is a... by mogrim on Sunday December 08, 2013 @03:46PM (#6871328)
Other incentives are available. Public pressure, for example.