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Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by zzleeper on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @03:13PM (#6849806)
What happens if I'm i) outside the country, so no SMS for me, ii) outside cell tower coverage but with wifi (happens every day for me inside buildings), or I got my cellphone stolen for instance. How does 2fauth works in that case?

(Just wondering, as the above are the reasons I decided not to use it)

Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by blairbeckwith on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @03:17PM (#6849829)
Authentication apps like Google Authenticator or Authy work without any data service of any kind. Most services provide backup codes you can print out and keep in your wallet or another safe spot in case you lose or destroy your device.
Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by modeless on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @03:52PM (#6850079)
You can print two copies of your backup codes, keep one in your wallet and one at home. You don't have to worry too much about them getting stolen because they are useless without your password. You can also generate a new set of backup codes at any time, which invalidates the old ones.
Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by potatolicious on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @03:19PM (#6849848)
2-factor authentication does not require the second factor every time. It typically only asks for the second factor if the device is unrecognized, or the usage pattern is unfamiliar.

So, your laptop that's logged into GMail will stay logged in when you're out of the country. Unless you explicitly log out, it will stay this way.

I enter maybe one two-factor auth code a week, if that.

So:

i) Prepare ahead and log into your services.

ii) Walk to the nearest window, get the code, and go back to your desk.

iii) Replace your phone - you keep your number - request the auth key again.

None of these are completely seamless of course, but the idea is that all of the above happen rarely enough, and are mitigable enough, that it's far better than the alternative: getting pwned.

There are also second factors in the form of mobile apps, which eliminate the need for SMS, so as long as you have data/WiFi you're set. There are also ones that don't need data at all (see: the Battle.net Authenticator, which is basically a RSA key on your phone), but require more substantial initial setup.

Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by nl on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @05:52PM (#6851062)
This advice isn't incorrect, but it isn't entirely accurate either.

The Google Authenticator mobile app doesn't require data, so that meets the OP's requirements perfectly (ie, no SMS or data).

Use that, print out the one-time use codes and keep them in your wallet.

Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by sp332 on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @04:49PM (#6850522)
All the 2-factor entry boxes I've seen make the "trust" optional. If you want to be asked every time, just uncheck the box.
Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by Macha on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @03:22PM (#6849865)
As far as I know's Google's authenticator app works by using a PRNG being seeded with a unique code for your account that's transferred when you first setup the authenticator and the current time. The app certainly works without a network connection.

AS for theft, you have backup codes which you should store securely (in a Truecrypt file with multiple backups or something), which allow you to log into your account once per code.

Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by ubercow13 on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @04:08PM (#6850193)
Why not print them out and put them in your wallet, like Google suggests. It's probably safer.
Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by tvladeck on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @05:42PM (#6850983)
my solution is to have them in an encrypted evernote note
Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by axus on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @03:21PM (#6849857)
With gmail, you get 10 one-time use codes, which you can keep on a small slip of paper. So if you need to register on someone else's computer, you can use one of the codes and cross it off. If you lose the codes but not your device, you can print out new ones.
Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by bbernoulli on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @03:17PM (#6849830)
With google's 2FA, you can print out codes ahead of time that can each be used once in place of the SMS'd code. Bring some of those with you, perhaps...
Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by darkhorn on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @03:49PM (#6850059)
When you are activating 2-factor authentication it gives you around 10 codes that you need to write down or print, to a wallet or under your freezer ets. However in university when I sit to a computer everytime I have to open a new clean Windows session, it leads me to enter 2-factor 4-5 a day. Thus I don't use it.
Re:Two million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen by celticjames on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @03:18PM (#6849836)
In google's case, you can print out a set of auth codes for times when you don't have your phone.