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Re:How to Burst the "Filter Bubble" that Protects Us from Op... by dredmorbius on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @03:06PM (#6849749)
Counterproductive in the sense of making it harder for people in general to get closer to the truth

I disagree. In noting that a doctrine has no foundation, bearing, or interest in the truth or verifiability, you're saving a lot of wasted time and breath.

As for collectives, last I checked most humans were collectives of a few trillion or so individual cells, comprising multiple gene lines and species.

Do you want?

Re:How to Burst the "Filter Bubble" that Protects Us from Op... by dllthomas on Thursday December 05, 2013 @04:42PM (#6857486)
"As for collectives, last I checked most humans were collectives of a few trillion or so individual cells, comprising multiple gene lines and species.

Do you want?"

When we say "want" we are, when not speaking metaphorically, speaking at the level of the individual. Call this want1. Want1 is not constructed from a collection of want0s of my individual cells, but follows from specific constructions of cells designed to want1. The existence of a want2 was something I wanted to limit my stipulation of - I make no strong claim of its absence. Constructing it from collected want1s often leads to things like circular preferences, though, so there are clearly at least some caveats.

Re:How to Burst the "Filter Bubble" that Protects Us from Op... by dllthomas on Thursday December 05, 2013 @04:46PM (#6857501)
"I disagree. In noting that a doctrine has no foundation, bearing, or interest in the truth or verifiability, you're saving a lot of wasted time and breath."

You are forgetting that you're dealing with actual people.