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Re:The Fair Price of a Bitcoin is Zero by dragonwriter on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @07:01PM (#6844111)
> One definition of money is "the most marketable commodity" and bitcoin does tend to pass that test. It's rapidly becoming a marketable commodity as so many people will accept it for goods or services.

"Rapidly becoming a marketable commodity" is vastly different than being "the most marketable commodity".

Re:The Fair Price of a Bitcoin is Zero by msandford on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @07:32PM (#6844244)
Agreed, but the definition of money isn't constant worldwide nor for all groups of people even in the same country, and it's definitely not constant through time.

In Nazi Germany everyone used the Reichsmark except for American POWs there, who used cigarettes. Right now in Argentina they use pesos and dollars. Furthermore the official exchange rate set by the government isn't the true exchange rate that you can get on the street. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner-of-war_camp and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_peso

Even here in the US there are plenty of people willing to trade or barter or accept slightly alternative currencies. I might argue that something's money-ness is related to it's acceptance as a medium of exchange. Probably not linearly, but in some way. There are network effects for money just the same as everything else that humans do.

At home I've got US coins that are labelled as dimes but I can take them to quite a few places and exchange them for at least $1.25 in today's paper dollars. Why? They're pre-1965 dimes and they've got some silver and that makes them worth more.

To try and pin down "money" as "absolutely this one thing always and forever" is a bit of a fool's errand because money is as one friend of mine put it a "shared delusion". It's a decidedly human construct and while you can pass laws, you can't actually control people's behavior. If everyone decides that bitcoin is money it doesn't matter what the law says about dollars, they'll be just as worthless as this author thinks bitcoin is now.

Re:The Fair Price of a Bitcoin is Zero by bitcoin-truth on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @11:01PM (#6844968)
The process of rapidly becoming a marketable commodity is called monetization.

Bitcoin is in a hypermonetization melt-up phase.

Re:The Fair Price of a Bitcoin is Zero by dragonwriter on Tuesday December 03, 2013 @11:34PM (#6845065)
> The process of rapidly becoming a marketable commodity is called monetization.

No, its not. That's the process of printing money to pay off a debt. Or the act of a government making something legal tender. It might even be a tenable name for something becoming money (which isn't just a marketable commodity.)

Things often become marketable commodities -- even rapidly, especially when they are newly discovered or new uses are discovered for them -- without becoming money.

> Bitcoin is in a hypermonetization melt-up phase.

What is that even supposed to mean?

Re:The Fair Price of a Bitcoin is Zero by bitcoin-truth on Wednesday December 04, 2013 @09:50PM (#6852377)
you are referring to monetization of debt. monetization per se is the process of becoming a money. Mises is a good read.

> (which isn't just _a_ marketable commodity.)

You got that right. It's _the_ marketable commodity.

> What is that even supposed to mean?

A melt-up is the opposite of a melt-down.