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Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by SwellJoe on Thursday July 02, 2009 @05:57AM (#684108)
Every time I read, or hear anyone speak about, working for Apple, I always think, "Who would put up with crap like that from a multi-billion dollar corporation?"

And yet, many people do. Just goes to show what good design, maniacal focus, and a charismatic leader can do, I guess.

Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by pmjordan on Thursday July 02, 2009 @09:22AM (#684319)
This story taking place 1993-1994, Apple would have actually been without its charismatic leader.
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by SwellJoe on Thursday July 02, 2009 @03:28PM (#684988)
Jobs still built the corporate machine and culture. It takes a while for that kind of thing to wear off or evolve.
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by wglb on Thursday July 02, 2009 @03:27PM (#684987)
But didn't his values from his earlier stint kind of set the culture?
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by zimbabwe on Thursday July 02, 2009 @01:12PM (#684735)
As somebody who may apply for a job at Apple in the near future: Because working for that multi-billion dollar corporation means getting to work on possibly the best set of electronic devices on the planet. If I work for a company rather than for myself, I want my work to be contributing towards as grand a project as possible, and if that end goal is valuable enough, working insane hours to meet insane requirements sounds like a fair trade.
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by jrnkntl on Thursday July 02, 2009 @05:34AM (#684086)
"We wanted to release a Windows version as part of Windows 98, but sadly, Microsoft has effective building security"

For once they do something good, are they still being bashed for it :)

Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by mahmud on Thursday July 02, 2009 @04:16AM (#684036)
A great classic.

People who enjoyed it are urged to read more like it at the mac-oriented Folklore website:

http://www.folklore.org/

A treasure!

Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by maryrosecook on Thursday July 02, 2009 @04:20AM (#684039)
Steven Levy's book about the creation of the original Macintosh is also wonderful.

http://www.amazon.com/Insanely-Great-Macintosh-Computer-Ever...

Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by pietro on Thursday July 02, 2009 @06:23AM (#684126)
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by bayareaguy on Thursday July 02, 2009 @10:19PM (#685530)
The secret to programming is not intelligence, though of course that helps. It is not hard work or experience, though they help, too. The secret to programming is having smart friends.

I think there's a lot of truth to this. It's the real reason some of the best software comes from universities.

Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by wglb on Thursday July 02, 2009 @10:30AM (#684443)
I had not seen this before. What a beautiful marvelous story.
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by dukeofchutney on Thursday July 02, 2009 @05:40AM (#684089)
This is a good story, well worth the time spent reading it. Mac developers devotion to duty is admirable. :)
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by heroin on Thursday July 02, 2009 @06:03AM (#684112)
That was not their duty to do that. they were not on a pay roll, and nobody assigned that project to them. It seems they wanted to do some kind of commitment. Nice to see some people works not just for money, but for a higher good. I wish more people, and not just in software industry, have this kind of motivation.
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by vorador on Thursday July 02, 2009 @10:12AM (#684411)
You'd be amazed to see how much time some people spend on free software projects.
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by InkweaverReview on Thursday July 02, 2009 @10:26AM (#684433)
Exactly.

I'm amazed by the effort that they went to, sneaking into the building to work on the code. I'm also tickled by the fact that other employees helped them, and knew about their situation despite the fact that the big shots in charge didn't.

Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by enra on Thursday July 02, 2009 @12:17PM (#684646)
Previously: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1741, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=169149, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=170373 (video)

It would be nice to add year to the title if the article is old.

Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by maryrosecook on Thursday July 02, 2009 @03:45PM (#685029)
Sorry. I didn't realise it had been posted before.
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by keefe on Thursday July 02, 2009 @03:50PM (#685041)
uhm, call me cynical but maybe he could have spent his time more profitably? Could he have launched this as a $2 app?
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by jonah on Thursday July 02, 2009 @05:31PM (#685222)
In the This American Life episode referenced at the bottom of the story, it is mentioned that they ultimately received a sizable royalty check for licensing it to Apple.
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by keefe on Monday July 06, 2009 @11:02PM (#690823)
nice! I scanned, lots of text for an at work distraction (:
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by lpgauth on Thursday July 02, 2009 @02:04PM (#684834)
"We wanted to release a Windows version as part of Windows 98, but sadly, Microsoft has effective building security."

Best line.

Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by jlees on Thursday July 02, 2009 @11:31AM (#684547)
Awesome story. I love the final line.
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by christofd on Thursday July 02, 2009 @07:31AM (#684185)
very enjoyable read. thanks.
Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by diN0bot on Thursday July 02, 2009 @07:48AM (#684201)
i like these oldies but goodies, too, but can a story from 2004 really be considered (hacker) news ? i don't think the chronologically "what's new" aggregator is not the right solution for "best things of all time".

it's no good if this story pops up every year. hacker news should prevent duplicate urls, and perhaps provide more browsing options, eg monthly top stories.

Re:Dev stays without pay to finish Mac Graphing Calculator a... by pchristensen on Thursday July 02, 2009 @09:10AM (#684296)
1. Despite the name, it's not just for news.

2. Some people weren't here a year ago and haven't seen it before.

3. There are 50-100 items per day on the front page - it won't kill you to see a few repeats a week.