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Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by programminggeek on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @11:37AM (#6802355)
$179 no contract android phone that doesn't suck is going to be very tempting, especially now that Straight Talk, Net 10, Virgin Mobile, etc. are starting to gain in popularity in the US.
Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by gcb0 on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @04:22PM (#6804316)
> are starting to gain in popularity in the US.

You know this is a joke, right?

they all have to lease band from the 2 big ones. The government does not allow them to build a network even if they had the money.

The only reason they exist is to scrap the bottom end of the market. the moment the market shifts to them, the 2 big ones will raise their network use prices to the point it is cheaper to use them than the small ones.

Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by gamblor956 on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @06:41PM (#6805120)
The spectrum sales carried with them severe restrictions on the prices AT&T and Verizon could charge to MVNOs, precisely to prevent that situation.
Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by gcb0 on Wednesday November 27, 2013 @08:34PM (#6812516)
they can't even protect us about overcharges on client accounts, what about overseeing that they are providing a decent service to those rented networks?

not to mention the good old lowering of their price until they've killed competition, again.

Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by gamblor956 on Wednesday November 27, 2013 @09:29PM (#6812673)
They do police overcharges and excess billing; both AT&T and Verizon have paid massive fines for this in the past decade.

The agency is not responsible for policing quality of service--that is a function left to the market. Nor does the agency simply get to decide that it will police quality of service--it must be granted that authority by Congress.

Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by maxsilver on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @08:34PM (#6805620)
They don't have to.

There are 2 "little ones" they can buy from (and often do without telling folks. Lots of Straight Talk / Net10 / TracFone devices buy from Sprint or T-Mobile without explicitly telling you)

While these smaller carriers aren't always a great replacement (in a lot of areas, for a lot of reasons) they provide enough competition to work well most of the time.

For instance, both AT&T and Verizon now offer $60/month prepaid plans for smartphones with LTE data.

That didn't exist a year ago. If AT&T had been able to kill T-Mobile, it probably never would have happened.

Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by Zak on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @08:41PM (#6805649)
For instance, both AT&T and Verizon now offer $60/month prepaid plans for smartphones with LTE data.

And T-Mobile offers a $30 prepaid plan with LTE data, though they don't try very hard to advertise it.

Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by _s on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @05:50PM (#6804862)
I doubt MVNO's would ever lease bandwidth from the big ones without taking into account their long term growth forecasts - I imagine they've got 5/10/20 year agreements in place with provisions for expansion at fixed rates - it's only if they begin to eat away at their quotas that they may change their fees / structure or and/or purchase more from the original network operator.
Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by dopamean on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @01:40PM (#6803224)
I'm a long time tmobile customer currently on a prepaid plan. I love it and tell anyone who will listen to switch if they live in a good coverage area.
Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by gcb0 on Wednesday November 27, 2013 @08:35PM (#6812519)
yeah, if they live in a covered area and do not have expectancy of walking around with their phones.

spoken from experience... i'm still enduring it out of longer term view (hope?) but it is though.

Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by wsxcde on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @12:53PM (#6802869)
Virgin Mobile sucks. I've been on their network for about 2.5 years now. Coverage is poor and data speed is terrible. The only good thing is that it's cheap but it seems like T-Mobile is cheaper and better.

Also, one other thing - their customer service told me that I wouldn't be able to use an unlocked Nexus 4 on their network - so make sure your phone is usable with them before buying one.

I myself am planning to get myself either a N5 or a MotoG and switch to T-Mobile.

Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by csmatt on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @07:23PM (#6805328)
Both my parents were on virgin mobile and my mom couldn't stand it. Dropped calls, text messages that were never received, and there were a lot of dead zones. I switched my plan on t-mobile to a family plan and brought them on. They've been really happy with it so far.
Re:The $179 Moto G hits the US early by mkaziz on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @01:05PM (#6802965)
I'm a Virgin user, and I testify that it is cheap and has terrible 3G speed. I'm excited to upgrade to the Moto G.