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Re:NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious soft... by pyre on Saturday November 23, 2013 @01:34PM (#6786896)
Don't you think that he's being a little inflammatory with statements this?

  But it is intellectually dishonest to pretend that
  people are just now discovering that NSA was breaking 
  into computers around the world.
By your own admission, you are just now discovering that the NSA was breaking into computers around the world.
Re:NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious soft... by dhimes on Monday November 25, 2013 @02:23PM (#6796268)
(sorry for the late reply)

Perhaps somewhat, but not really. I read the word 'people' in the sense of 'some group' instead of 'any single person.' In other words, 'people now know that eggs aren't bad for you' doesn't mean that every single person has learned this, just that the knowledge is in the generally accepted body of knowledge and those with business or interest in nutrition know it. At least that's how I read it.

Re:NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious soft... by pyre on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @09:11AM (#6801277)
But if a person does not know that the NSA is doing this (and possibly would tell you that they aren't doing it, were you to ask), then is that person being intellectually dishonest in acting like this knowledge is new to everyone?

I think that leveling a claim of intellectual dishonesty at someone who thinks that everyone else was as ignorant as they were is a bit harsh, and sort of inflammatory.

I think that most people would reasonably believe that if there were such strong signals that the NSA was doing this it would be closer to public knowledge than it was.

Re:NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious soft... by dhimes on Tuesday November 26, 2013 @09:34AM (#6801427)
I don't mean to drag this on forever, but I read the comment differently- as I said in the reply linked below. In short, that person isn't being intellectually dishonest. But the organizations who did know better and are pretending otherwise are.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6796335

Re:NSA infected 50,000 computer networks with malicious soft... by se523 on Saturday November 23, 2013 @05:25PM (#6787682)
^wrong assumptions. You're assuming he didn't know already. Why would one make a statement like that if one didn't know beforehand?