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Re:Landmark Senate Vote Limits Filibusters by axus on Thursday November 21, 2013 @01:56PM (#6776586)
The argument for not appointing any more appeals judges was that the caseload was light enough, that no more were needed.

In my opinion, it was right for the Senate to give up a little power here. They should be exercising more oversight powers in other areas.

Re:Landmark Senate Vote Limits Filibusters by DannyBee on Thursday November 21, 2013 @02:27PM (#6776792)
"The argument for not appointing any more appeals judges was that the caseload was light enough, that no more were needed. "

This is of course, completely and totally false. One only needs to look at the stats to see that, depending on circuit, they end up with something like 3 new appeals per day on the low side, and 40 new appeals per day on the high side.

http://www.uscourts.gov/Viewer.aspx?doc=/uscourts/Statistics...

Given the amount of time and effort it takes to decide a single appeal, the caseload is not "light" by any stretch of the imagination.

Pendency is huge (even though very slowly decreasing on average)

These stats also don't count the time it actually takes to hear argument on cases, etc. Just the number of filings.

Re:Landmark Senate Vote Limits Filibusters by r00fus on Thursday November 21, 2013 @02:10PM (#6776681)
The Senate is giving up NO power. The Senate is deciding to act democratically now, on a simply majority vote, instead of being hobbled by a super-minority, and only for presidential nominations.

Truly inappropriate nominations (ie, Harriet Myers) can still be blocked by majority vote.

The entire filibuster was never laid out in the constitution, it's a convention adopted by the Senate itself and was used ruthlessly by southern racist senators (both Dem and GOP) to block progressive legislation despite being popular and wanted by the majority.

Re:Landmark Senate Vote Limits Filibusters by the_watcher on Thursday November 21, 2013 @02:23PM (#6776774)
It's also been used (by both sides) to block all kinds of other things, from tax cuts to tax hikes, debt ceiling increases, defense authorizations, New Deal legislation, and judicial appointees. As a Senator, President Obama even voted to filibuster John Roberts appointment, who was fairly universally seen as a highly competent, qualified nominee as Chief Justice. In short, the filibuster has been used for the purpose it was designed for (a check on majority power in the Senate, which was designed to be much more conservative than the house - whether you like it or not, it's reality), as well as a tool for partisans and racists to get what they want. So basically, like every rule or regulation ever formulated.
Re:Landmark Senate Vote Limits Filibusters by greenburger on Thursday November 21, 2013 @02:36PM (#6776870)
The cloture rules have changed many times over the years. A quick summary can be found on the US Senate webpage. However, Originally the filibuster was not unique to the Senate, House members could also filibuster, and there was no means of voting to end debate. Obviously this had to change if the House was to accomplish anything as it grew. One could well argue that it is time for the rules in the Senate to change again if it is to get anything done.

[1]: http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/...

Re:Landmark Senate Vote Limits Filibusters by cpleppert on Thursday November 21, 2013 @06:40PM (#6778363)
The cloture rules have only had significant changes twice in history. Once in the 1910s when they were instituted and later in the 1970s. The fact that the senate requires unanimous consent has nothing to do with any purpose but is basically a quirk of history that the senate never got rid of the unanimous consent requirement. What we call a filibuster today is just a use of withholding unanimous consent to block a motion that would otherwise pass with a majority vote and isn't related to the use of the filibuster in the 19th century.