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Re:LG Smart TVs log USB filenames and viewing info to LG ser... by jzwinck on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @10:25AM (#6761723)
One major problem is that the TV makers continue to release new models without updating old ones. I got a high-end 55" LG TV with Netflix built in. One year later I moved to another country, where Netflix exists but the TV didn't support it. LG told me that the model year after mine supported changing the region, whatever that means. Since then I changed to iTunes then Amazon, neither of which the TV has. Built-in stuff in will continue to suck until it becomes modular and upgradeable. The rest is mostly worthless, and separate boxes remain necessary.
Re:LG Smart TVs log USB filenames and viewing info to LG ser... by Pxtl on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @11:17AM (#6762154)
Exactly. Users are okay with old cellphones getting deprecated because they buy a new one every few years. TVs are expected to last a lot longer. Give me some good powered USB ports for an HDMI stick and get the heck out of my way.
Re:LG Smart TVs log USB filenames and viewing info to LG ser... by Amadou on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @09:26PM (#6765963)
Give me some good powered USB ports for an HDMI stick and get the heck out of my way.

That is a profoundly good idea. Let the TV manufacturer bundle all their "smart apps" stuff on USB-powered HDMI stick like a chromecast. Then five years down the line when the manufacturer has completely forgotten that the model even exists you can just spend $100 and get a modern one from some third party.

With HDMI CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) they can even integrate controlling the HDMI stick through the TV's remote for a completely seamless experience.

It's probably one of those ideas that is so good no manufacturer will ever do it though and we'll just be stuck with obsolete and forgotten software.

Re:LG Smart TVs log USB filenames and viewing info to LG ser... by zaroth on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @11:18PM (#6766264)
That's what AppleTV is, just a hockey puck not a stick.

I still don't understand why "AppleTV" isn't just a dock for your phone with an HDMI tail and an IR receiver on the front... Maybe it's old fashioned of me to not use my phone while watching TV.

Chromecast has shown how very little you actually need connected to the TV in order to provide this kind of functionality though.

Re:LG Smart TVs log USB filenames and viewing info to LG ser... by untog on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @10:28AM (#6761754)
Yes - that fight seems similar to cellphones a few years ago. TVs based on Android and the like might be a good start for getting more updates.
Re:LG Smart TVs log USB filenames and viewing info to LG ser... by PeterisP on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @04:33PM (#6764639)
How will updating the old model's software help them sell you the new/upgraded one?
Re:LG Smart TVs log USB filenames and viewing info to LG ser... by buckbova on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @12:04PM (#6762523)
I bought the samsung with upgrade ability via evolution kit.

http://www.samsung.com/us/2013-smart-evolution/

Re:LG Smart TVs log USB filenames and viewing info to LG ser... by vidarh on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @03:07PM (#6764029)
Until they decide not to offer it any more. Which could be next year for what you know.

Personally I'll stick with an external device, as it means there's an endless line of companies waiting to pick up the baton, and if I don't find an off the shelf device, I can set up my own.

There's just no compelling reason to lock myself into whatever the TV manufacturer decides to provide.