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Re:Password hack of vBulletin.com by cdr on Monday November 18, 2013 @09:52AM (#6754521)
Sure vB is crap... and then you look at the other options out there and realize they're even worse. Especially 5-10 years ago when many of the sites using vB started using it. It's wildly successful - at least in the niche I'm familiar with - for a reason. It's reasonably cheap, reasonably easy to work with even for nontechnical people, works reasonably well, and looks decent.
Re:Password hack of vBulletin.com by csmuk on Monday November 18, 2013 @10:22AM (#6754690)
Please don't make excuses for it.

I've had to deal with the multi-day aftermath of an XSS worm twice. That's when you realise that it's as bad as it is. After that it was "get fucked" and move to phpbb which while is not a stellar product it seems to be put together with a modicum of common sense and has a responsive community and support.

Re:Password hack of vBulletin.com by Pxtl on Monday November 18, 2013 @12:17PM (#6755407)
I'm actually stunned by the terrible quality of most bulletin-board software. It's telling that every forum I enjoy frequenting is one where the developers pulled a NIH and re-invented the wheel.
Re:Password hack of vBulletin.com by leapius on Monday November 18, 2013 @11:20AM (#6755005)
I'd like to know opinions on IPB actually.
Re:Password hack of vBulletin.com by hfern on Monday November 18, 2013 @10:37AM (#6754763)
What were your thoughts on XenForo?
Re:Password hack of vBulletin.com by csmuk on Monday November 18, 2013 @11:32AM (#6755080)
Hell no. It's based on the Zend framework which is an even greater pile of rot!
Re:Password hack of vBulletin.com by sampk on Monday November 18, 2013 @01:33PM (#6755926)
For real? Oh a spaghetti fan I see.
Re:Password hack of vBulletin.com by csmuk on Monday November 18, 2013 @02:18PM (#6756250)
Nope. Just not a fan of adding piles of abstraction on top of something that just crawls already. To be honest I'd use a different language/platform if you need to use patterns like that where they perform (java/c#).

Bit of a "no true scotsman" that one as well. Just because someone doesn't use Zend doesn't mean they write spaghetti.

Re:Password hack of vBulletin.com by tluyben2 on Monday November 18, 2013 @10:11AM (#6754619)
Every time I open the admin interface shivers run down my spine. I don't understand how anyone can find that 'easy to work with'. I'm technical so maybe that's it.

But you are right; the competition (at least it used to be; haven't needed any forums recently and the last one I made myself) was every far worse.