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Re:Time to abandon Gmail? by snogglethorpe on Sunday November 17, 2013 @11:06PM (#6752453)
His arguments are amazingly unconvincing, and he attempts to sweep by far the most important point for most people—whether or not Gmail is a good mail client or not—away with random hand-waving: "Meanwhile, its interface is as stale and frustrating as ever". Er, no, David, it's not (and never was).

Where does ZDNET find these bozos?

As far as I can tell, this is ZDNET hastily attempting to get some clicks by pandering to the youtube rage-quitting brigade.

Business as usual for them I suppose, but why do people post this crap to HN?

Re:Time to abandon Gmail? by joelrunyon on Monday November 18, 2013 @01:20AM (#6752913)
> "Meanwhile, its interface is as stale and frustrating as ever"

The UX redesign from a couple months back was definitely one of the triggers pushing me to look for alternate services.

Re:Time to abandon Gmail? by na85 on Sunday November 17, 2013 @11:07PM (#6752457)
I've been downmodded heavily elsewhere onsite for suggesting that HNers love to hate google because of hipster mentality, so that clearly can't be it...
Re:Time to abandon Gmail? by pyre on Monday November 18, 2013 @02:40AM (#6753144)
> I've been downmodded [...] for suggesting [...] because of hipster mentality

That's probably your problem right there. You're attempting to apply a negative label ('hipster') to a group of people with whom you disagree.

If your only counter-point to someone is to 'suggest' that they only hold a particular view because it's trendy, then you're going to run into issues.

Re:Time to abandon Gmail? by alwaysinshade on Monday November 18, 2013 @12:14AM (#6752706)
I'd say I'm a hipster, but I still like Google. I think you would have been down-voted for shitcanning hipsters (the implication is that rage-quitting Google's services it's fashionable and they're sheep) rather than you being correct that it's due to hipster mentality. In a way, shitcanning hipsters is fashionable, so we're all treading the same ground. Let's all have a beer together and chill out, just mind the beards.

Disclaimer: I don't have a beard

Re:Time to abandon Gmail? by ksk on Monday November 18, 2013 @03:32AM (#6753307)
Whats wrong with not liking Google? I don't like them. Then again I don't like most corporations. Unfortunately Google also being an advertising company gets double my hate.
Re:Time to abandon Gmail? by ars_technician on Monday November 18, 2013 @01:42AM (#6752976)
>I've been downmodded heavily elsewhere onsite for suggesting that HNers love to hate google because of hipster mentality

Because it's a stupid reason. You would get the same response if you suggested that the reason was that HNers love to hate google because they hate logos with color in them.

Re:Time to abandon Gmail? by na85 on Monday November 18, 2013 @03:02AM (#6753228)
I think that if you examine the meta on HN dispassionately you'll see it's actually a very good reason.

It often gets couched in different language, but a great deal of HNers have a large dislike of HN because of either groupthink or mainstream-aversion.