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Re:How Google's Android Could Finally Crush Apple's iPhone by bane on Saturday November 16, 2013 @09:24AM (#6744797)
could? According to latest figures, at least globally, is.

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/business/item/34832-android-t...

"'We believe the absence of a large-screen device may have contributed to Apple’s inability to grow share in the third quarter,' said Ryan Reith, IDC’s Worldwide Quarterly Mobile Phone Tracker programme director."

Also notice the average selling price. Android phones are right in the middle of the pricing pack, with iPhones sitting at more then double.

Basically, Apple makes phones that are too small and too expensive to win in the global market.

In the U.S. market Apple is the #1 manufacturer, but iOS is the #2 platform by marketshare - but holding steady (grow some quarters, lose some quarters) - not a great place to be, but not terrible either.

http://bgr.com/2013/08/06/us-smartphone-market-share-q2-2013...

Samsung is almost as profitable as Apple as well.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/11/14/apple-samsung-take...

iOS7 may be the beginning of a new approach for Apple. But they're going to have to launch a larger phone in addition to the already well selling smaller phone size. It's no surprised that analysts are expecting such a device the next go around.

Re:How Google's Android Could Finally Crush Apple's iPhone by stephenr on Saturday November 16, 2013 @10:55AM (#6745136)
> Basically, Apple makes phones that are too small and too expensive to win in the global market.

So, having profits higher than any other player in the smartphone market, with just 14% of market share, is “losing” is it?

Samsung had to sell nearly 2.5x as many devices to make LESS profit than Apple.

Google’s profit from Android is purely about eyeballs - what happens when people realise that Google actively watching everything they do is even more creepy than the NSA watching for what a small percentage of people are doing?

> iOS7 may be the beginning of a new approach for Apple. But they're going to have to launch a larger phone in addition to the already well selling smaller phone size.

So you admit that the current phone sells well, and Apple’s profit share shows that it is immensely profitable, and yet somehow Apple “must” launch something different?

As for the general concept of “phablets” - have you ever fucking seen someone using one? It’s like the 21st century version of someone walking around with a boom box on their shoulder.

Re:How Google's Android Could Finally Crush Apple's iPhone by bane on Saturday November 16, 2013 @11:30AM (#6745291)
Your ever moving fanboy goalposts are cute but irrelevant in the long term. Apple is quickly becoming irrelevant in the global market and needs to step it up to compete strategically. The smartphone market moves fantastically quickly because of all the competition. Apple brings some of the best competition there is but is increasingly starting to look old fashioned even among non fashionable demographics.

Things are starting to change. iOS7 is an important step forward from the very dated looking predecessor. But the phone format, or more specifically, the single small format smartphone they are currently leading with is not sustainable in the direction the vast majority of the market is hearing. Mark my words apple will offer a larger format phone within the next 2 years. They have no choice... Or they will fade into unfashionable irrelevance.

Re:How Google's Android Could Finally Crush Apple's iPhone by stephenr on Saturday November 16, 2013 @11:42AM (#6745349)
OK sure. Let me know when Tim Cook gives you a call for your words of wisdom. Or, you know, doesn’t.
Re:How Google's Android Could Finally Crush Apple's iPhone by hengheng on Saturday November 16, 2013 @11:40AM (#6745343)
> what happens when people realise that Google actively watching everything they do

People know. And frankly, nobody thinks Apple does any better. Particularly the omnipresent "M7" motion recording microcontroller is seen by many as a straight up NSA bug. Actually people are using Android devices without a Google account, preferring to instal apks from obscure sources.

So no, Apple does not have a better reputation than Android. Nokias N900 does. Welcome to the European tech scene, home to the pirate party.

Re:How Google's Android Could Finally Crush Apple's iPhone by stephenr on Saturday November 16, 2013 @12:02PM (#6745429)
> People know

twelve guys with neck beards is not enough to state “people know”. I would wager that the vast majority of non-technical people don’t know or don’t understand how Google uses their data/activities/perosnal information to make money.

Your assertions about Apple also don’t make any sense. Google makes its money by selling ads, and targets them at users based on the amassed personal information and history they have about that person. Apple makes money by selling high level hardware. Apple have no business use for reading all my email or tracking what store I bought underwear at.

I’m not sure about your conspiracy theories but searching for “iphone m7 nsa” doesn’t give me anything except more crackport theories that “cite” references which don’t actually mention the topic being discussed at all.

I know you can use an Android device without a Google account - but how many of the built in apps in a native Android install work without a Google account? What quality are the alternatives? I think you overestimate how many people using Android devices do so without using Google services - the same for non-Google app stores.

Im not even sure how a 4 year old phone from what is effectively a dead company equates - you’re comparing a hugely profitable company, with an “open source” (for some definitions of open) operating system, with a physical device.

I wish you good carrots on your trip to the nasal equine.