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Re:The iPhone Software Revolution by yardie on Thursday June 25, 2009 @03:04PM (#674222)
I agree with you on the locking and the price in India. I wasn't aware they made you pay full and the phone was still locked. But you can't compare every phone to smartphones. A lowly Nokia 1100 costs less than $30. But it's your basic mobile phone. You won't find people doing a lot of browsing from it.

But if you don't like the terms of deployment you are free to develop for other platforms. Usually, someone will come along and brag about how they won't develop their application for the iphone. But there are thousands of others that put up with it everyday. The fact is Apple took a page out of the microsoft playbook. They got the developers to invest early which brings users, which attracts more developers. Compared to the price to get a person with brains 99$ is just the price of doing business. Paying full price for an iPhone to test in is also the price of doing business.

But I've met a few Indian developers working on the iPhone. They need them to do their job so someone is buying them. Even if it is only a few Indian iphone developers.

What the $99/299 price is a small barrier to entry. It's like Apple is saying we want only serious developers submitting stuff to the Apple store. The world is full of good ideas but littered with half completed projects. This is one way of getting through the noise. And if $99 is too much for you then you weren't serious about it to begin with.

Re:The iPhone Software Revolution by plinkplonk on Thursday June 25, 2009 @04:40PM (#674342)
" But you can't compare every phone to smartphones. A lowly Nokia 1100 costs less than $30. But it's your basic mobile phone. You won't find people doing a lot of browsing from it."

Correct but the point is moot because the IPhone doesn't have even one percent of the smartphone market in India(mostly Nokia, with Blackberry second with assorted others third. IPhone is nowhere in sight. The IPhone was a collosal failure here and likely to stay that way.).

(EDIT: Some rough numbers: Total number of cellphones sold in India annually = About 130 million. Number of smartphones sold in India annually =6-8 million. Number of Iphones sold in India so far = about 9,000. The math is ... interesting)

"What the $99/299 price is a small barrier to entry. It's like Apple is saying we want only serious developers submitting stuff to the Apple store. The world is full of good ideas but littered with half completed projects. This is one way of getting through the noise. And if $99 is too much for you then you weren't serious about it to begin with."

This is different from what you said earlier. First, you said.

"Development is free. It only costs you when you go to submit it to the store."

As you rightly point out in your next post, this is simply not true. You have to pay at least 99$ to develop an app and deploy it on your Iphone to test it. (unless you are claiming that "deployment" on a phone to test it is somehow outside "development").

Now you are saying you have to pay Apple to prove your seriousness. This is a different proposition from ""Development is free".

$ 99/299 to develop for the IPhone can be interpreted in many ways but "free" is not a valid interpretation. Hence my response to your claim that IPhone dev is free.

" It's like Apple is saying we want only serious developers submitting stuff to the Apple store. "

No it is not. In that case Apple should charge 99$ the first time anyone tries to sell a product in the Apple Store. By charging the money to allow a developer to deploy an app on his own phone, Apple is saying developing for the IPhone is some kind of privilege one has to pay for.

I for one will never develop for the IPhone where I have to pay to develop for my own phone, but that is a purely personal decision and certainly not "bragging" as you claim. YMMV. And that is as it should be.

The one good thing in all this is that at least In China and India, IPhones won't be popular for a long long time. Small Mercies.