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Re:Fix Ubuntu by nikatwork on Friday November 08, 2013 @11:18AM (#6697019)
Bzzt, middlebrow dismissal. How about you make a concrete proposal on how you think Canonical's business model should be constructed, instead of "computer says no"?
Re:Fix Ubuntu by Perseids on Friday November 08, 2013 @12:35PM (#6697652)
Bzzt, capitalism fallacy. I fondly remember Ubuntu being a charity of Mark Shuttleworth. Not everything needs a business model.

The mindset of the time is reflected in an announcement [1] of the /Ubuntu Foundation/:

""" "It's important for us to distinguish the philanthropic and non-commercial work that is at the heart of the Ubuntu project, from the commercial support and certification programs that are the focus of Canonical Ltd." said Mark Shuttleworth"""

These new pushes to monetize the home user is what is really annoying.

[1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-July/...

Re:Fix Ubuntu by mdellabitta on Friday November 08, 2013 @02:29PM (#6698525)
Honestly, the world doesn't owe Canonical a business model. They don't get to do whatever they like and not suffer criticism.
Re:Fix Ubuntu by kevincrane on Friday November 08, 2013 @02:39PM (#6698594)
I like Ubuntu and want them to keep surviving, so they get to pick a business model. If you don't like it, don't use their product.
Re:Fix Ubuntu by mdellabitta on Friday November 08, 2013 @04:54PM (#6699406)
I don't, and I also reserve the right to say that I don't like this aspect of their business model.
Re:Fix Ubuntu by chappi42 on Friday November 08, 2013 @02:56PM (#6698702)
And you feel proud to use a well polished system that Canonical prepared for you without paying? Motto: I have my OS, it's free & I owe nothing, Canonical can look for themself?

The alternative (well polished, reasonably easy/user friendly) is apple and windows. No more free.

I think much criticism is shallow.

Re:Fix Ubuntu by mdellabitta on Friday November 08, 2013 @04:16PM (#6699215)
Nope, I don't use Ubuntu.
Re:Fix Ubuntu by chappi42 on Saturday November 09, 2013 @11:40AM (#6702133)
So you're not concerned about Ubuntu. Why don't you then let Ubuntu try _their_ thing and be happy with the Linux ecosystem which provides so much choice? Why the strong critisizing?

It was an apt-get remove --purge .. to remove the things I didn't like. The things I like I can download from everywhere, much much more difficult with Mac/Windows (how would I e.g. get XCode other than through iTunes?)

Re:Fix Ubuntu by Brakenshire on Friday November 08, 2013 @01:15PM (#6697979)
> Bzzt, middlebrow dismissal. How about you make a concrete proposal on how you think Canonical's business model should be constructed, instead of "computer says no"?

They should offer a ad-free system, which you pay $10 for, or a free version, supported by ads.

Re:Fix Ubuntu by tluyben2 on Saturday November 09, 2013 @04:58AM (#6701225)
Yes; why not learn from sites / apps here; you get ads/data sales, it shows that you do after installation. For $10/year you don't get either. Most people don't care about $10/year. Look at mobile; people install for $100s/year of apps/games they use/play once. Who cares about $10/year for a good looking, well supported desktop? Otherwise, us another distro. I just like Ubuntu on the client and Debian on the server.
Re:Fix Ubuntu by corncobpipe on Friday November 08, 2013 @12:35PM (#6697653)
Paid professional phone support.