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Re:Apple hides a Patriot-Act-busting "warrant canary" in its... by daemin on Tuesday November 05, 2013 @08:00PM (#6679782)
I remember reading about how the USA "freedom of speech" is not "freedom of general speech", but more like "freedom of political speech".

Though I am not sure how well that was enforced with communism in the 50's and 60's, and now with theocratic political systems.

Re:Apple hides a Patriot-Act-busting "warrant canary" in its... by jlgreco on Tuesday November 05, 2013 @08:29PM (#6679915)
While seemingly a sensible limitation to free speech, the "shouting fire" line was coined to justify prosecuting a man who was protesting the draft. (This man argued that the draft was a form of involuntary servitude. I think he had a solid point.)

In a nutshell, it was argued that in this case the political speech represented a "clear and present danger" to national security.

Never concede to them anything. Any slack you give them, they will use to hang you.

Re:Apple hides a Patriot-Act-busting "warrant canary" in its... by rsynnott on Wednesday November 06, 2013 @06:33AM (#6682148)
> This man argued that the draft was a form of involuntary servitude. I think he had a solid point.

In a modern context, absolutely; most laws and treaties banning unfree labour specifically exempt military service, which is considered unfree labour by just about all authorities on the matter.