Clojure from the Ground Up, Part 2: Basic Types

Re:Clojure from the Ground Up, Part 2: Basic Types by logjam on Sunday October 27, 2013 @12:40PM (#6622467)

That's nice. And I have completely unmixed feelings from reading you and the other genius commenters here and in the other thread about how you are somehow threatened by his simple encouragement of underrepresented minorities in a technical field.

Unlike you I'll actually tell you what my feelings are about the entrenched misogyny, racism, and sexism tolerated by so many white anglo saxon males in the tech world: complete disgust and contempt.

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Re:Clojure from the Ground Up, Part 2: Basic Types by bpwalker on Sunday October 27, 2013 @01:10PM (#6622558)

Unfortunately I don't have enough points to downvote this so I'll just have to speak up.

> entrenched misogyny, racism, and sexism tolerated by so many white anglo saxon.

During my 15 years, as a white anglo saxon male, working at 8 companies of various size across Canada I have never met a man who hates women. Over the last say 10 years I have always been the minority by race and have reported women 40% of the time.

It would be nice to have more women in IT (yes please!), but the crap you just spewed must not represent all of IT around the world.

I don't have an appreciation for the intro. I think it detracts from an otherwise great blog post. And I think it's ok for people to have mixed feelings about it too.

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Re:Clojure from the Ground Up, Part 2: Basic Types by lectrick on Monday October 28, 2013 @11:26AM (#6627491)

You seem very (and rather irrationally) upset, so instead of responding I will just give you a (completely ulterior-motive-free) e-hug from an anglo saxon male who has so far been nearly universally told he is the "nicest guy ever" as well as the "best boyfriend ever". That said, I once got in trouble with a female superior for using the word "wench" in casual conversation. I think that's a bit extreme, but that's just me. Skins have various thicknesses when it comes to these things.

I didn't mean anything malicious by what I said. I just felt browbeaten, that is all.

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Re:Clojure from the Ground Up, Part 2: Basic Types by lectrick on Monday November 04, 2013 @10:23AM (#6669011)

I randomly returned to this conversation and boy are there a lot of assholes here who commented after I left. I think I'm more on your side now. I like to think I'm a nice guy, but there's clearly a lot to learn... and to teach to other guys.

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Re:Clojure from the Ground Up, Part 2: Basic Types by vezzy-fnord on Sunday October 27, 2013 @01:02PM (#6622529)

Putting a "simple encouragement" in a technical tutorial like that is at the very least a non sequitur and detracts from the reading experience.

That's not to say educational material should be dry and without humor, but this is simply pure agenda.

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Re:Clojure from the Ground Up, Part 2: Basic Types by nosefrog on Sunday October 27, 2013 @01:08PM (#6622550)

And I fail to see anything out of order with the agenda, "encourage women to program".

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Re:Clojure from the Ground Up, Part 2: Basic Types by vezzy-fnord on Sunday October 27, 2013 @01:26PM (#6622616)

There isn't. There's nothing wrong with the agenda of promoting healthy eating habits, either. However it's not a good idea to preface a technical article about food processing with it.

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