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Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by moogleii on Thursday October 24, 2013 @01:12PM (#6606477)
This has nothing to do with microwave technology at all. A sad face is warranted.
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by jostmey on Thursday October 24, 2013 @01:31PM (#6606595)
Reverse microwaves? The author of the post must be completely, 100% scientifically illiterate.
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by gojomo on Thursday October 24, 2013 @02:20PM (#6606923)
The headline writer is simply speaking figuratively, for maximum effect in constrained space. This is easily understood by a general audience, but sometimes misunderstood by the extra-literal/extra-critical mindset often seen in HN threads.

In the headline, 'Microwave' stands synecdochally for 'microwave oven' and then also for the more-general category 'fast-heating appliance'.

When there are multiple ways to interpret something, assume the interpretation that credits the writer/speaker with some sense, not an interpretation that is most-literal or most-amenable as the setup for an insult.

Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by Amadou on Thursday October 24, 2013 @02:44PM (#6607084)
I voted you up for truth.

But... don't discount the profound disappointment that a headline like that generates in those of us who do know how a microwave works. We were teased with the idea of learning something we thought would alter our understanding of the universe -- some sort of microwave version of the peltier effect[1] -- only to find out it was something as pedestrian as poetic license.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_effect

Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by waps on Thursday October 24, 2013 @03:30PM (#6607341)
Those who know physics would hopefully know that a cooling microwave would be a blatant violation of the second law of thermodynamics.
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by cookingrobot on Thursday October 24, 2013 @06:27PM (#6608445)
No it wouldn't - as long as the device, target and environment heat up as a whole. For ex, laser cooling where a laser reflects off a surface with more energy than it started with.
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by Amadou on Thursday October 24, 2013 @05:25PM (#6608088)
Oddly enough, your response is basically the same sort of overly-narrow literalism that gojomo was complaining about, just from the other direction.
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by serf on Thursday October 24, 2013 @07:00PM (#6608638)
No, it's not.

"reverse microwave" is correct in a sense, because as gojomo pointed out, the author meant it as a way to convey the concept of "rapid-heating appliance".

"You can't do x because of thermodynamics" actually was incorrect, and didn't take into account multiple specific instances which show that closed systems can create such results.

Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by jsilence on Thursday October 24, 2013 @04:42PM (#6607805)
In soviet russia...

SCNR

Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by coderzach on Thursday October 24, 2013 @01:34PM (#6606617)
I think she meant reverse microwave oven. As in, rather than heating fast, it cools fast.
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by petercooper on Thursday October 24, 2013 @02:01PM (#6606788)
Yeah, I think it's just a pragmatic layman's term for a good headline. I've complained over the years to my wife I'd like a "reverse microwave" for exactly this use, so it certainly clicked with me.
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by fragsworth on Thursday October 24, 2013 @02:22PM (#6606934)
But anyone who usually understands "microwave" as electromagnetic energy will find this title extremely confusing.
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by aneisf on Thursday October 24, 2013 @02:42PM (#6607077)
I think most people on HN are familiar with both microwaves and microwave ovens. It's not really hard to see which one the author was going for.
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by chc on Thursday October 24, 2013 @02:49PM (#6607109)
That is like calling ice a reverse fire. If the technology doesn't have anything to do with microwaves, I don't see how the "reverse microwave" adds anything but confusion. It's not as though "chills beer in 45 seconds" is so vague as to require a strained microwave analogy.
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by vermillion on Thursday October 24, 2013 @04:30PM (#6607745)
I loved this comment, why is it being downvoted?
Re:Reverse Microwave Chills Beer In 45 Seconds by mbreese on Thursday October 24, 2013 @02:23PM (#6606940)
I must admit... Before I read the article, I spend a moment trying to figure out how they got microwaves out of the the spin energy of water molecules. Thankfully, that doesn't happen.