Working on It (TextMate)

Re:Working on It (TextMate) by andylei on Sunday June 14, 2009 @01:47PM (#657334)

well, the reason a rewrite is bad is that it gives competitors time to produce a better product. in terms of text editors on Mac, nothing else is really that close, so it seems like Allan hasn't really lost out.

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Re:Working on It (TextMate) by 1gor on Sunday June 14, 2009 @04:22PM (#657515)

   in terms of text editors on Mac, nothing else is really that close

emacs

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Re:Working on It (TextMate) by j_baker on Sunday June 14, 2009 @06:54PM (#657677)

I don't see that many textmate users dropping it for emacs any time in the near future. Yes, textmate was inspired by emacs, but it tends to appeal to a different crowd.

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Re:Working on It (TextMate) by undees on Monday June 15, 2009 @01:40AM (#658003)

I did. It was actually TextMate that got me back into Emacs after all these years. I needed something at work on my not-a-Mac that was as good as TM. e and InType were close, but fell into the (sorry in advance for the cliche) uncanny valley, where any minor shortcoming relative to TM was doubly unsettling. It was actually easier to adjust to Emacs than to the also-rans.

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Re:Working on It (TextMate) by avinashv on Monday June 15, 2009 @12:10PM (#658583)

Not emacs, but I dropped TextMate for Vim, and was very, very happy to do so. The stagnated development, the closed source and lack of portability, the annoying bugs etc. made it an easy choice.

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Re:Working on It (TextMate) by jrockway on Monday June 15, 2009 @01:20AM (#657985)

but it tends to appeal to a different crowd.

People that know how to read?

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Re:Working on It (TextMate) by ynniv on Sunday June 14, 2009 @09:55PM (#657812)

The more I try using TextMate, the more I find myself using Aquamacs. There are some things that TM is clearly better at, but there are a lot of immature features:

- find in project is slow - window and buffer management - editing via SFTP (tho Aquamacs has horrible lag for me) - syntax highlighting crashes on really long lines and files - too many keyboard shortcuts... I often hit the wrong key and have it add a random code snippet to my JavaScript file (yes, this is probably configurable, but I expect good defaults from commercial apps)

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Re:Working on It (TextMate) by dasil003 on Sunday June 14, 2009 @04:37PM (#657525)

All text editors are subsets of emacs... that doesn't make emacs more usable or productive though.

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Re:Working on It (TextMate) by davidw on Sunday June 14, 2009 @06:07PM (#657617)

Emacs is extremely "productive" in the hands of a capable user. A "hacker", let's call him or her. "Usable"? Well, not in the hands of a beginner. If you want to just click a few things, Emacs is not for you. If, on the other hand, you live in your text editor all day long (you are, say, a programmer), what Emacs lacks in usability it makes up for 1000 times over in extensibility, flexibility, and ability to do pretty much anything you could imagine, with a bit of effort.

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Re:Working on It (TextMate) by dasil003 on Sunday June 14, 2009 @06:52PM (#657674)

I didn't say it wasn't productive. I said "more productive".

The difference is setup overhead. If you discount the effort to get your environment dialed-in, then of course emacs will be the best choice. On the other hand I encourage you to consider that Emacs Lisp may not in fact be the best tool for all jobs.

I'm not sure why you put "productivity" and "usability" in quotes, or why you mention "beginners" and "want to just click a few things". We're talking about programmer tools here, so suggesting that a non-programmer couldn't use emacs is not really apropos.

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Re:Working on It (TextMate) by davidw on Monday June 15, 2009 @03:58AM (#658115)

Emacs is forever. In other words, 'dialed in' is a continuous process, which will keep happening no matter what language or environment is popular today.

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