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Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by computer on Monday October 14, 2013 @02:43PM (#6548867)
I applaud the makers of this demo for adding a gif-based fallback on the error page for those of us who have no WebGL support. It shows:

"Your browser does not support this demo. Here is what you are missing:"

[https://www.mapbox.com/pointcloud/matterhorn/css/error.gif]

Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by mbq on Monday October 14, 2013 @01:40PM (#6548554)
It is actually a raw data from UAV mapping; the whole story: https://www.mapbox.com/blog/sensefly-drone-mapping-matterhor...
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by Sprint on Monday October 14, 2013 @02:21PM (#6548748)
I don't think so, the raw data should be much more accurate down to deci-, if no centimeters.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by 7952 on Monday October 14, 2013 @02:46PM (#6548886)
Height data derived from photogrammetry usually has lower vertical accuracy than that (even on fixed wing planes with better sensors).
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by dsl on Monday October 14, 2013 @07:41PM (#6550401)
How exactly do you justify disagreeing the blog post from the creators of the project? Do you believe they are lying about the data source?
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by psuter on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:05PM (#6548009)
The company behind the technology to turn images into point clouds is Pix4D [1]. Their website has another few pretty demos.

[1] pix4D.com

Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by flurinegger on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:02PM (#6547986)
Doesn't work in Chrome/Chrome Canary/Safari on OS X. Just get a black screen after the points are loaded
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by deweller on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:16PM (#6548073)
Did not work on Chrome 30/Mac OS X 10.8.5 for me.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by dubya on Monday October 14, 2013 @02:52PM (#6548918)
I got just the black screen on my office iMac with an AMD card, but it works fine on my much older Macbook with an nvidia card.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by dpedu on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:06PM (#6548011)
Works on Chrome on 10.8 here. But not Safari.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by flurinegger on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:07PM (#6548019)
I'm still on 10.7, Chrome 32.0.1664.3 dev
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by TrainedMonkey on Monday October 14, 2013 @06:07PM (#6549947)
Took a reload to get it chugging on my firefox. Win7 64.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by bane on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:13PM (#6548054)
it's just as fun to flip it around and explore the big hole in the ground
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by heliotron on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:25PM (#6548131)
This crashes Safari on my mac. Seems to be a segfault originating somewhere in the graphics card driver. Card is an ATI HD 4870. Running MacOS X 10.8.5/Safari 6.0.5.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by heliotron on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:36PM (#6548196)
Also crashes in Firefox 24 on the same machine.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by mark212 on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:44PM (#6548238)
worked for me in Safari on my Retina MacBook Pro. Running OS X 10.8.5 and Safari 6.0.5
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by heliotron on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:50PM (#6548282)
Yes, I think it must be a problem with the graphics card or driver rather than the browser itself.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by teekert on Monday October 14, 2013 @02:54PM (#6548929)
Also Crashes Ff on my mbp early 2011 with 10.7.5
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by okueng on Monday October 14, 2013 @05:00PM (#6549613)
This is a low res version of the original data, because of limitations of webgl. If you want to see the making of, as well as the full res pointcloud (over 300 millions!!!), check out this video:

Mapping the impossible: http://youtu.be/jh4kRatBNkk

Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by okueng on Monday October 14, 2013 @05:10PM (#6549664)
Wrong link, the video mapping the impossible is this one: http://youtu.be/NuZUSe87miY
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by StavrosK on Monday October 14, 2013 @08:00PM (#6550492)
Can we get Leap Motion support in this? Their API is pretty simple/well made, and it's very well suited to easily rotating 3D stuff.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by tekmate on Monday October 14, 2013 @02:41PM (#6548858)
i don't have a reference to compare it to aside from a heightmap i used for some rendering years ago, but 25mb for the *.asc seems pretty big for the quality it puts out
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by pagekicker on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:29PM (#6548156)
What's the point of point clouds?
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by dagw on Monday October 14, 2013 @03:57PM (#6549263)
Point cloud data is (relatively) cheap and easy to collect. However turning point clouds into 3D surfaces is computationally Very Hard and even the very best tools still require a lot human intervention to give acceptable results. Having good tools that are able to work with point clouds directly dramatically speeds up the time from data collection to data visualization and being able to actually use the data.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by StavrosK on Monday October 14, 2013 @07:57PM (#6550477)
Hmm, why is it very hard? Wouldn't just connecting the points between them yield acceptable results? I can understand if the points are disparate, but this dataset is pretty much a grid, and it looks like you could easily generate the surface from the points.

What am I missing?

Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by michaelmior on Monday October 14, 2013 @11:17PM (#6551296)
How do you decide which points to connect?
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by phireal on Tuesday October 15, 2013 @05:02AM (#6552209)
Use an unstructured grid (triangulation) to connect the elements. This is routinely used in numerical modelling (think computational fluid dynamics) to generate linked data sets from scatter data (such as this) in 2 and 3D (i.e. a surface and a volume).
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by dagw on Tuesday October 15, 2013 @03:22PM (#6555690)
That will work in about 50-70% of cases in the real world depending on the quality of your data and how sensitive you are to errors. For the remaining 30-50% you have to fix things by hand. The further problem is there is no good heuristics to separate the cases where it worked from where it didn't, so you still have to go through all the data to flag the cases which have to be fixed. Trust me, if you can come up with a way to make it work in general, you could build a very successful company around selling that software.
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by StavrosK on Tuesday October 15, 2013 @05:13AM (#6552239)
What phireal said. If it's a sparse point cloud, sure, it would be troublesome. The one in the example is pretty dense, and it's almost a grid, so just connect neighboring points together, no?
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by michaelmior on Tuesday October 15, 2013 @09:05AM (#6552968)
How do you decide which points are neighboring?
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by boyter on Monday October 14, 2013 @05:03PM (#6549629)
Its actually fairly interesting technology. A while ago (years?) there was a post about a graphics engine which provided unlimited detail. You could literally zoom from 50,000 feet down to observe a single blade of grass. That technology is still to do anything but the demo's are impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/user/EuclideonOfficial

Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by mark212 on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:45PM (#6548249)
my question also. This is useful for what, exactly?
Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by tinco on Monday October 14, 2013 @12:57PM (#6548339)
Point clouds are not very useful themselves, if we had a choice we would skip them. They are the result of turning any measured data (like pictures or depth samples or whatever) into a 3d visualisation.

Ideally you have collected enough data to reconstruct the surface geometry with reasonable accuracy, but realistically often you don't.

Our minds are rather good at inferring surface geometry from point clouds, our algorithms not so much yet as far as I know. So sometimes (as in the case of this visualisation) it suffices to show people just the point cloud.

Re:Visualizing The Matterhorn as an 860,000 point cloud by gavinpc on Monday October 14, 2013 @01:09PM (#6548392)
Because it's there.