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Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by ptn on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @01:07PM (#65328)
Something there got me thinking... how much do guys at a startup actually sleep? Four hours?
Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by Shooter on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @04:05PM (#65433)
I sleep 8-10 hours per night, on average. I have bouts of insomnia, but my productivity drops significantly if I sleep less than 8 hours. I also start to have very odd - and dangerous - physical symptoms. Yes, I have a sleep disorder. For a period of time right before I was diagnosed, I actually slept 14-20 hours per day.

As with most constraints, it has turned out to be an advantage in some ways. I focus on working smarter instead of harder, and I really value the hours I have to work with in each day. I have some employees that can accomplish more in one hour than other employees can accomplish in a month. A few hours each day can just be a rounding error if you are really conscious of productivity and smart about how you use your time.

The idea that you can only sleep 3-4 hours per night if you want your startup to be successful is complete BS, and is part of the counterproductive macho aspect of startup culture. If you can get by on 4 hours of sleep, and aren't lying to yourself about your productivity and performance, then good for you...but such people are rare.

I wish I didn't have a sleep disorder, of course, but I would still sleep 7-8 hours per night even if I didn't. Brains function best when they are well-rested.

Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by aaroneous on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @05:18PM (#65487)
If you don't mind sharing: which sleep disorder do you have?
Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by Shooter on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @05:59PM (#65515)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_24-hour_sleep-wake_syndrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_sleep_phase_syndrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_apnea

My symptoms are exacerbated by a couple other health issues, and the doctors have had difficulty establishing causal relationships. I use a CPAP for the apnea.

I feel like I have jet lag if I miss a little sleep. If I miss a great deal of sleep, my symptoms worsen dramatically...I had a stroke when I was 30 after being sleep deprived for too long, for example.

I was able to do all-nighters without a problem until I was a senior in college. Then, I worked night shift for seven years to make it easier to cope. The sleep issue was yet another motivator for starting my own company.

Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by jsjenkins168 on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @01:40PM (#65354)
You can sleep 4 hours each night if you take naps throughout the day.

Not only does this increase your total awake hours, it also improves concentration and acuteness.

If you are interested in studying sleep effectiveness, try to pick up a copy of Why We Nap by Claudio Stampi

Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by kn0thing on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @06:42PM (#65535)
We tried this and failed miserably. http://reddit.blogspot.com/2005/10/polyphasic-sleep-groggy-j...

My hat goes off to you for making it work. /impressed

Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by jsjenkins168 on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @10:42PM (#65618)
Interesting, and cool you tried it (sounds like Uberman if it was Steve Pavlina).

If you feel inclined to try again feel free to email me, I might be able to offer some help.. You can compromise with an Everyman polyphasic schedule..

Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by rms on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @01:49PM (#65362)
Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by ptn on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @03:04PM (#65404)
I've been dying to try poliphasic dream for a long time (that's kinda why I asked). Too bad the rest of the world is monophasic :-(
Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by rms on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @03:52PM (#65426)
I did biphasic when I was working full time. It mostly worked.
Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by breck on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @03:20PM (#65411)
I slept 4 hours for about a month. It was a great thing to do--once. Now I know how little I can sleep and still function.

I think one thing I've learned though more than anything is that startups take a long time and its better to work from 8-10 7 days a week for 2 years than to work 6-12 everyday for a few months.

So I average about 6 hours a sleep a night now, and make sure to exercise everyday.

Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by davidw on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @01:18PM (#65338)
More, hopefully. I don't think you can actually be productive if you're a complete zombie for extended periods of time.
Re:What reddit taught me about startups: "because it's your ... by carter on Tuesday October 09, 2007 @03:06PM (#65406)
Mmm...around 6 hours in average.