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Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by morgante on Monday October 07, 2013 @11:41PM (#6512914)
I actually thought this article would be about the psychological impact of thinking about your time as money.

Personally, I've noticed that knowing and internalizing my hourly rate has decreased my enjoyment of life. When you contemplate the opportunity cost of even an hour with friends (>$100) it's hard to have much fun. Has anyone encountered research on this topic?

Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by dalek_cannes on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @12:23AM (#6513034)
Thinking of opportunity costs in general is usually a downer in any context. It's a "could have" and wherever there is a "could have", a "should have" is not too far behind. Regret is never a good thing.

Also, a lot of people recognize that time is money, but rarely do they think that money is time. They never use their money to buy back time. Instead they use it to make more money. And now they have to spend more time protecting, managing and investing that money because if they don't, they'll feel bad about the opportunity cost of their money sitting in the bank and being eroded by inflation.

And enough people know how to earn money, but most people don't know how to spend it. When I say spend, I don't mean waste or reinvest. Consider: if you give someone X dollars, he will start by eating better food; give him 2X and he'll dress better; 3X and he'll buy a better car; 10X, a better house. This is usually where people's imagination start to fail them. 20x? Er... buy an even better car and a better house. 50x? Buy two cars and two houses. 100X? Buy a yatch. 200X? Buy a private jet.

Notice that after the lower levels of Marslow's hierarchy have been satisfied, people just don't know what to spend their money on. All they can think of is buying bigger and bigger versions of what they already have. You can't eat away a $100 million no matter how much expensive food you eat. You can't live in all the rooms of a 50-room mansion. All you can do is use your money to make more money or waste it. Not many think of spending it to buy back your time -- spend it doing something you like.

Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by sameer_sundresh on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @04:28AM (#6513620)
It's pretty common to buy things for friends and family, in the hopes of improving the quality of their lives and the quality and amount of time you can spend with them (this doesn't always work out as planned).

It's also pretty common to not just buy tangible objects directly for yourself, but to buy the sort of community you want to live in. Endowing museums, universities and hospitals, sponsoring the artists and politicians that suit your tastes (and not just your business interests), etc.

Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by morgante on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @04:18AM (#6513598)
Great point. I actually do deploy this technique fairly effectively, but solely as an "investment."

Thus, I use money to buy time which I use to earn money. (For example, paying for my laundry to be done so that I have more time to work.)

Obviously I still need to learn that increasing a random number in a bank balance doesn't actually affect my life at all.

Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by charlysisto on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @02:51AM (#6513407)
Excellent point. For me the main use/luxury of money is not having to think about it.
Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by nicklovescode on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @03:30AM (#6513496)
I have an article in drafts named "Money is Time" about this subject. I've heard the idea of money being used to buy time much more in some circles than others, and I would like to push the idea that it's an option.
Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by kanwisher on Monday October 07, 2013 @11:51PM (#6512945)
Generally there is a reasonable limit on the number of billable hours you can have in a week and be productive. So once you hit that cap, for me is 45-50. Then you just don't have to put a price on the fun cause you've already maxed out your potential money for the week.
Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by morgante on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @12:10AM (#6512995)
> Generally there is a reasonable limit on the number of billable hours you can have in a week and be productive.

I actually haven't found this even when working about 80 hours a week (~60 externally billable). The key is splitting it between 3 things: 1 primary employer; smaller contracts; building my own startup. The variation in work definitely keeps things interesting and productive.

Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by meric on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @02:42AM (#6513391)
Value your friends more. Time with friends: priceless. (This applies only first X hours each week spent with each friend). After all, if you're deciding to spend your time with them even though you have such a high hourly rate, they must be very good friends. When you die, would you regret not spending enough time making money or not spending time with your friends more?
Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by tehwalrus on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @04:31AM (#6513623)
if my hourly rate were >$100, I'd be working <20 hours a week, because $2000 is enough to pay for (+ rent bills toys), and I'd have the rest of the time to do stuff I actually wanted to do.
Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by morgante on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @05:07AM (#6513717)
$2000 doesn't go that far in NYC. You can certainly live on it, but you're not saving much and you're not living a fantastic lifestyle.
Re:Time is not money: Thinking about it makes you a better p... by tehwalrus on Tuesday October 08, 2013 @10:40AM (#6515260)
The principle is the same wherever you set the threshold - earn enough to live, in as few hours as possible, then live in the rest of the hours.

As software engineers, we're paid enough to be able to do 4 or even 3 day weeks and chill out/hack for fun the rest of the time. When I escape my PhD (if I don't do a 24/7 startup) I'll be seeing how few hours I can work and still pay the bills.